The Next Era of Space: Every Player You Need To Know
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Three weeks ago, NASA committed $20 billion to putting a human settlement on the Moon.
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Then two weeks ago, SpaceX saw for the largest IPO ever, valuing them at $1.75 trillion.
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And then just last week, we sent humans around the Moon for the first time in
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53 years, traveling 250,000 miles away from Earth. Just massive.
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And then this morning, Amazon acquired Global Star for $11.6 billion.
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And on Friday, Blue Origin is sending their third orbital rocket into space.
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That's five events in three weeks, and the industry for space is coalescing
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and mobilizing at a rate that we've never seen before.
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And for the first time ever, you can participate by investing in these companies.
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On this episode, we're going to explain the massive thesis around space and
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why it's the new investment opportunity that's coming right after AI at an opportune time.
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We're going to walk through all the different companies, all the different sectors,
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and exactly which companies are the most opportune for you to get involved in.
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Space is a huge opportunity right now. It feels like the first time in history
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in which we have the technology now to actually make meaningful progress in
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space and generate actual value.
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And what happened just recently is the Artemis 2 kind of kicked this off and
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it made it seem possible.
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Artemis 2 was a wild success. 10 day mission, 700,000 total miles.
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They went, they took humans the furthest they've ever gone. They took them the
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fastest they've ever gone.
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They captured unbelievable photos along the way, like the one we're looking
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at on screen, which is a moon eclipsing the sun, which is something we don't
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get to. to see very often.
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And it was just this really unbelievable mission. They recovered them in a dinghy
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in the middle of the ocean.
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And I guess maybe if we show this photo, that is a testament to the beginning
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and the end of this new phase of space.
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Because, I mean, NASA has been around forever. The last time they put humans
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on the moon or the last time they went to the moon was over 50 years ago.
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None of us were born yet. And the way that they recovered these astronauts is
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it's in a dinghy. It looks a little old.
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This is the end of the NASA era. This is the beginning of the private industry
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era, where now NASA is going to be funding future missions to the moon and beyond
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through these private entities.
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And for those curious why, the numbers are a bit staggering.
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SLS, the space launch system that NASA has, costs about $4.1 billion for this launch.
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It's totally expendable. Every piece is thrown away. And it takes a very long
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time for them to build these things.
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Whereas SpaceX, on the other hand, a Falcon 9 launch costs $67 million,
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which is 30 to up to 60 times cheaper than what it costs NASA to do these things.
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And when you compare these two, we have to give a lot of credit to NASA for
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getting us here, for having this mission actually work successfully,
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for getting the astronauts home safe, for collecting all the data.
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But it is now time to hand over the reins to these private companies that are
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building unbelievable technology to do this at a far cheaper cost.
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I mean, Falcon 9 is $2,700 per kilogram.
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Starship is going to get that down to $10 to $70. So it's going to be a lot
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cheaper, a lot more efficient.
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And this unlocks a ton of opportunities in the market that we're going to get into.
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Yeah, I mean, during the space shuttle era, to transport like a kilogram was
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well over $50,000. And SpaceX has reduced that by 500 times, which is just insane.
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When I look at the space economy for last year, it was valued at around $626 billion.
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And it's projected to hit around $1.2 trillion by 2032.
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I actually think that's massively understated because we have one of the biggest
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IPOs ever, supposedly coming this year.
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SpaceX filed a confidential IPO filing with the SEC, I think two weeks ago,
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and valued it at $1.75 trillion, which will be the largest IPO that we've ever seen.
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Now, looking at the market, it typically means that this IPO will happen sometime in June.
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For some reason, people on Polymarket don't believe that that's going to happen too soon. I
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think technically it is. Elon's made some very strategic moves recently to make this happen.
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SpaceX has merged with X and XAI. XAI has merged with NX.
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So there's a lot of moves that make this a necessity at this point. He needs the capital.
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He's raising around $75 billion during this IPO to be able to fund a bunch of
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these launches going forward.
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He mentioned at one point recently that in an ideal world, within the next five
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to 10 years, there's a space launch every 10 minutes, which is an almost impossible
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fee to achieve given the context of infrastructure and investment that we need to have right now.
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Yeah. And at that launch cadence, it's important to understand that this is
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a huge change from what we have because currently in the first half of 2025,
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it was a launch every 28 hours, which is a lot.
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Don't get me wrong. That's a lot, but it is a far cry from the launch per every hour or two.
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But this is happening. And this is the year in which a lot of the attention
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is going to shift into space.
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And this is a year where in which there's a ton of opportunities both publicly
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and privately through this IPO through the
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success of Starship through the success of the Artemis mission so we're going
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to unpack that opportunity right here using this really cool artifact that we
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generated through perplexity which we'll actually link in the description below
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you can click through and engage with it yourself but it's this really nice
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interactive portfolio that we're going to use to walk through the opportunity in space and
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based on every category that there is. So we have launch providers,
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we have the satellite providers, we have lunar infrastructure.
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And it's very fitting because just today, there was a huge acquisition in this
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space already. So the market is hot.
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And let's get into the first segment, which is launch providers,
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because I think this is probably the most noteworthy one, starting with Rocket Lab.
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If you haven't heard of Rocket Lab, you should hear about Rocket Lab.
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They're a pretty interesting company. You guys, you want to walk us through?
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Yeah. So if you've heard of SpaceX, which unless you've been living under rock, you definitely have.
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You might think that $1.75 trillion is a little over the price tag that you're willing to pay.
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There are other options for launch providers, and Rocket Lab is the major number two, basically.
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It's valued at around $40 billion in market cap, and it is the second most active
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launch provider globally.
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They've launched around 85 missions, and they've signed contracts worth, I think,
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$2 billion, or maybe it's like $1.8 billion. It's something in the billions of dollars.
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And they use or are developing their reusable rocket.
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Now, it's important to mention now that their latest reusable rocket,
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I believe it's called Neutron, has been delayed for over a year at this point.
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But that's pretty common amongst a lot of these space launch companies.
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And Rocket Lab is currently at the frontier.
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And if you look at their stock price here, it's currently sitting at around $73.
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It IPO'd in 2020 at, I believe, $10.
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So we've already got a 7x here. And a lot of eyes
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are now focused on rocket lab because they think that spacex valuation might
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be a little overblown and they're trying to do a lot more things rocket lab
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in context is focused or hyper focused on building out reusable rockets and
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being part of the highway into space right now spacex has the monopoly of this
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but companies like rocket lab is a viable alternative yeah
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Companies that build these rockets that deliver payload to orbit are the foundational
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infrastructure layer of the economy without this launch structure nothing else
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works and currently spacex dominates 90% of this, but the market is expanding
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and the real competitors are actually scaling up. So we have Rocket Lab.
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We have another company that you may not have heard of called Firefly Aerospace.
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And the third, which is the most interesting, and unfortunately the private
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one currently is Blue Origin. Now, for those that aren't familiar,
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this is Jeff Bezos' company.
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He left Amazon, started working on this as a passion project,
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and they work fairly closely with Amazon.
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Now, Amazon was in the news today because it acquired one of the companies we're about to talk about.
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But I think Blue Origin is one to watch because they have access to not only
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the infrastructure through Amazon, but also Moneybags Bezos.
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And they are actually the second farthest along when it comes to these kind
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of larger spacecraft that can deliver more payload to
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orbit with their new Glenn rocket. So Blue Origin, very excited about them.
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I'm starting to think that the private market is just almost worse than the public market.
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Like, you have a better investment opportunity investing in some of these public market stocks.
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Like, look at Blue Origin. Like, its market cap is estimated to be between $50 to $100 billion.
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That's already, like, multiples more than Rocket Lab, who has live testing rockets
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and launching. Now, granted, Blue Origin has done the same thing.
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But, you know, TrackRocket has to account for something here but
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i want to get into the acquisition that
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you just mentioned so this morning amazon announced that
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they are acquiring a company called global star which is basically
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going to be launching or helping to launch satellites into lower earth orbit
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now if that sounds familiar it's because elon musk and spacex specifically starlink
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is doing exactly that they're building direct to earth satellite broadband which
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will allow you to run the internet on any device wherever you are.
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So in spotty areas where you're going on a hike, or if you're in a country that
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doesn't get easy access to the internet, you now get seamless access,
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you could be on a plane, you could stream games, play games, whatever it might be.
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This is a similar competitor to that.
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Listen, I got to take a moment aside here to just congratulate and like shill Amazon for a second.
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They are so much more than an e-commerce company, which so many people kind of attribute them.
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They're involved in the AI race, they're supplying the chips to train some of these top models.
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They're the main distributor of it. And now they're also a space company as well.
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It's important to note that this is separate to Jeff Bezos' Blue Origin.
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In a way, they're kind of complementary to each other. But Jeff Bezos isn't
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directly involved in this, at least from the best of my knowledge. Is that right, Josh?
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Yeah, well, he's still involved with Amazon. I believe he's still on the board.
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But I mean, you have to assume this is kind of not as direct as a SpaceX Tesla
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comparison, but both companies are going to actively work together to solve these problems.
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And you can see on the chart, it's doing very well. Now, this was not the only
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news from Amazon today, which the second headline I found even more interesting
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than the acquisition offer, which was that they made a deal with Apple,
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which I found interesting.
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So Amazon has now signed an agreement with Apple to become the primary satellite
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provider for iPhone and the Apple Watch, which is notable because it's not SpaceX.
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They didn't choose SpaceX.
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Apple customers are this, they go on to say Apple customers are already connected
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out of cell range, and they'll do that with Amazon Leo satellites in the future.
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So the low-Earth orbit satellites that I presume Blue Origin is going to be
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launching into orbit, they are going to be Global Star satellites,
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and they're going to be powering iPhones and Apple Watches. Now,
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I understand that they have been working with Global Star currently,
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where if you are currently out of service, if you point your iPhone at the sky,
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you're connecting to a globalized satellite.
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But I also understand that this isn't exclusive and this is kind of time based,
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right, Ejaz? It's not just Global Star that they're working with.
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Yeah. And the time base or the timeline is pretty important to note here.
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It's planned to launch in 2028, this partnership with Apple,
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which by that time, you're probably going to have millions of Starlink satellites
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out there. and it wouldn't surprise me if Apple signs a similar deal with Starlink
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just because the service is better and already there.
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One thing I was looking into with this Global Star acquisition,
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because like $11.6 billion is a pretty hefty price to pay.
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They currently have 24 satellites in orbit, Global Star specifically.
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Now they're planning to launch 80 more satellites by the end of year.
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For context, Starlink has around 10,000 satellites live in orbit right now,
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and they're scaling, they just got approval, to scale to a million satellites over the next year.
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So the point is, we're talking about orders of magnitude, different scale here,
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and we already have a provable method via SpaceX to get payloads out there for cheap.
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And we're going with the next Starship launch very soon.
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So Blue Origin, Amazon, Leo, we have a bunch of catching up to do here.
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It's a nice thesis to uphold right now, but the infrastructure expense that
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they need to overcome right now is pretty massive.
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For reference, a fully loaded Falcon 9 rocket deploys 24 satellites per launch,
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which is a little interesting in the differences.
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But back to the companies, there's another one here under the satellite broadband
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and direct-to-device category, which is AST Space Mobile.
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They're up 3,000% in the last few years, which has been a pretty impressive launch.
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So there's a lot going on there. I think the next category is among my favorites,
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which is lunar infrastructure.
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Sure there's one company here but it is important to note that nasa just committed
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20 billion dollars to a permanent moon base so someone's going to have to start
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collecting those payments i know spacex and blue origin are on that list but
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there's another company,
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named Intuitive Machines. Their ticker is Lunar, which is the first private
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company to actually land on the moon in February of 2024.
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They did the damn thing, which is pretty cool.
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So they are clearly one of the front runners when it comes to lunar deployment.
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And I think lunar is going to be really important because, I mean,
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as Elon stated, we're going to be building a mass driver.
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We're going to be putting people on the moon, robots on the moon.
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We're going to start actually harvesting it for whatever resources,
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science, information we can get out of it.
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And I don't know the lunar industry it's it's pretty exciting to me.
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It's it's not just fake either like um if
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you're wondering like whether this company is just kind of like uh propagandering
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itself um it signed a five billion dollar contract and it right now it's to
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build the space um communications between earth and the moon when a settlement
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is eventually built but uh you know think about it like you're gonna need to
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be able to figure this out um but also elon has committed to also setting up a moon settlement,
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probably in cohesion with NASA on the moon.
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Is it by 2029 or is that when he wants to build the mass drive?
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I can't remember. Some of the timelines inflect.
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But the point is, there are around three concerted efforts or three major companies
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or initiatives to put humans on the moon.
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We just flew humans around the moon for the first time in 53 years.
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So we know that it's feasible.
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And the next step, we'll be figuring out whether the moon is habitable,
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where to put them, maybe it's on the dark side, how to create infrastructure
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around this to launch things like satellites or harvest moon resources.
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So all of this is becoming a reality. And the aim is to, I think the consensus
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is to do this within the next five to 10 years, which is, in my opinion,
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much sooner than I expect.
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And we're going to see that reflect in some of the prices of these companies,
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which are working on the key infrastructure, such as communications,
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such as intuitive labs, to be able to do this.
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And there's even more infrastructure on the observation and space data.
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So there's this funny thing in which you put satellites into space and then
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just point them back at us.
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And those high resolution images actually carry a lot of value for governments,
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militaries, insurers, commercial clients.
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There's a whole industry built on satellite imagery.
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And there's a few front runners in the satellite imagery space,
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particularly Planet Labs, which is the largest Earth observation satellite fleet.
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And they do daily images of the entire land mass of Earth, which serves defense,
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it serves agriculture, insurance, climate.
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There's a lot of science, a lot of money, a lot of security that's revolving
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around having these high quality images.
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These are the companies that are responsible for it. There's also Satellogic
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and Black Sky Technology.
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Those are the big three when it comes to satellite imagery. And this is something
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that is real recurring revenue today.
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They're actively selling products to clients, and they are actually making some
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money. So this is an interesting category for that reason.
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I am looking at some of these market caps, Josh, and I'm struggling to understand
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how random AI startups are worth like 10x more than these companies that are
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actually building what I believe is going to be very useful and essential infrastructure
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to building out a space economy.
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I think primarily it might be because people don't believe the thing is here, that the thing is real.
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But one of the reasons why we're creating this episode and speaking to you about
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all of this right now is we believe not only is space a very viable industry...
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Two, it's going to be gargantuan times or multiples more valuable than the current
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AI space right now, simply because there are infinite resources and infinite
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TAM to kind of like extrapolate a lot of this. And it enables AI itself.
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We're going to be launching data centers and satellites into space.
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NVIDIA and SpaceX are already working on a radiation-hardened satellites to
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be able to pull this off, chips to be able to pull this off.
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So we know that it's going to become a thing.
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And three, this is going to happen very soon. Like we're going to start to see
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the fruits of the labor over the next probably year to two years.
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Last year, the space industry was worth around $626 billion.
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It's estimated to be multiples more that, especially after SpaceX IPO.
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So I want people to be able to keep an eye on some of these companies and track
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their performance. We should have like a limitless portfolio at this point.
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Yeah. And it's important to understand a lot of this revolves around the Starship
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program working and getting those highways online.
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We have Rocket Lab that's working on it. We have Blue Origin that's working
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on it. the leader in this pack right now is SpaceX.
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And the moment they start to get the starships working and they get payload
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in those ships and they're able to launch them on a regular basis,
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that creates the highways that enable this infrastructure to get into orbit
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or beyond and then actually start making money.
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So that unlocks this entire space race. And I think a lot of the concern that
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people have is on the idea that we're not actually going to be getting enough
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payload to orbit quick enough.
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And the reality is that might not be true. And the downstream effects
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of all this payload getting to orbit are remarkable it unlocks this gigantic
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industry that people are predicting to grow faster than almost anything on earth
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and even the ai thesis even the ai play i mean data centers in space man that's
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going to be a huge market for anyone who wants to put a satellite on one of
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these rockets and send it into low earth orbit start training ai data centers,
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There's a huge opportunity and there's a few other categories that you can click
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through and get into if you're interested.
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Things like what space infrastructure manufacturing are, legacy aerospace,
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kind of like Lockheed Martin and Northrop Grumman.
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It kind of covers all those categories in this artifact. It'll be linked in the description.
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But the final thing we should mention maybe is just the ETFs in general.
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If you don't want to pick a specific stock, perhaps you can choose the basket
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of them. And I believe that there's a few that are publicly available right now.
Ejaaz:
Yeah, so one of my favorite ETFs from this list is the Arc Space Exploration
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by Kathy Woods, which, by the way, her fund is just involved in everything from
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Web3, crypto, AI, and space as well.
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Now, typically when you're investing in space, we covered a lot of companies
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today. You're probably like, which ones do I allocate to? How much do I allocate to them?
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These ETFs kind of fix that for you. It's a basket of all the top companies.
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Some of these baskets focus on a particular category, whether it's space infrastructure
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or launch infrastructure.
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And some just cover all categories in its entirety. It will cover launch providers,
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lunar infrastructure, earth observation, etc.
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ARK Space Exploration ETF covers things like defense systems,
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rocket labs, communication, stuff like that.
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And it's one of the most subscribed and invested in ETFs that we have in this
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list. But there's some others here, right?
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Yeah, there's a few others. They're noteworthy. You can go through and click
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through or you could just take a screenshot of this and just kind of see which
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ones that you would be most interested in.
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The final part of this fun little artifact is the portfolio builder,
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where we can kind of build an emulated portfolio and choose a preset balance
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in order to kind of guess and estimate what the returns look like.
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So for example, with every $10,000 say that you invest in this,
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you can kind of gauge how much you want to allocate to each industry.
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And then the projected returns based on the conservative amounts of returns,
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the kind of high targets and the average gains that you could predict based
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on each industry and the projected gains that investors have been guiding for.
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I think a lot of this will end up being conservative if it works.
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If Starship version three does get to orbit quickly, if a lot of these other
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companies like Blue Origin are being able to rapidly reuse these rockets,
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we should see this projected portfolio increase far higher. But again, it's risky.
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These highways don't exist right now. A lot of rockets are still exploding.
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There is no proof that this is going to work on the timeline that we hope for.
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But in the case that it does, this is a tremendous opportunity. We are heading outward.
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We're there is no real market cap on that because of how untapped the potential
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is. This takes a long time. We're moving atoms instead of bits.
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Atoms are much more challenging, particularly when you're fighting against the
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atmosphere of Earth. But I think it's a really noteworthy opportunity that,
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you should at least be familiar with and understand.
Ejaaz:
So just to recap, space is having a bit of a moment.
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In the last three weeks, we've had five major events, including filing for a
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SpaceX IPO, sending humans around the moon, and all of this for a fraction of
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the cost that it used to cost 53 years ago.
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Space is now becoming an investable asset as well. There are a ton of companies
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that are publicly invested in.
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If there are too many for you to kind of comprehend, there are ETFs that you can look at.
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We're going to link to this public artifact so you can get access to it and
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you can do your own research as well.
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But the point is, I don't think it's a coincidence that AI and space are galvanizing
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at the same time. They're coalescing, they're overlapping.
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There's a lot of overlap in the sense that AI data centers in space will need
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space shuttles in the same way that satellite and broadband access will also
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rely on the same types of infrastructure.
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There are a few companies right now that are privately held that are very popular.
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You've got SpaceX, you've got Blue Origin, but a lot of public companies as
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well that are building out this essential infrastructure, not just for launch
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shuttles, but also for communication and many other points.
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The point is, we think that this industry will be worth well north of $626 billion,
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which is what its total value was last year. And we look forward to seeing this expand.
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It is a limitless portfolio that doesn't exist yet, but I kind of want to spin
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up after this episode, Josh.
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We're going to just have to start our own portfolio, both for private and public
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industry, because I feel like we're on it.
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There's one called Mesh Optical that's really interesting. And all they're doing
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is just fiber optic cabling for these satellites, for these data centers.
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And when you really think about the downstream technology required to put these
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things into space and make them function at the level that we expect them to,
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there is just a huge amount of peripheral companies that are going to need to contribute to this.
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And there's a lot of upside for those that can actually do so in a meaningful
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way. So space as an industry is really exciting.
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There's plenty of opportunities in the public markets. There are plenty private,
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and there's going to be a lot more coming down the line.
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Now, the question is mostly the timeline. How quick is this actually going to happen?
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How quick are all of these launch companies that sit at the base layer of this
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infrastructure going to be able to get mass to orbit rapidly,
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reusably, and for a very low cost per kilogram?
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We will see, but we will be monitoring it right here on Limitless every day,
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as we do four times a week.
Josh:
So thank you all so much for listening. EJs, any final thoughts before we let people go today?
Ejaaz:
Yeah, I'm actually curious whether anyone listening to this has thought of a
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company or knows of a company that we haven't covered right here.
Ejaaz:
One thing that I'm peripherally aware of is there are just so many of these
Ejaaz:
space companies and there are
Ejaaz:
too many to keep track of. So if you've noticed something, let us know.
Ejaaz:
Or if there's an angle or industry that we might be missing out on that might
Ejaaz:
be complementary to AI or space, let us know in the comments.
Ejaaz:
We would love to hear from you.
Josh:
Yeah, well, as always, thank you guys so much for watching. and we will see you in the next episode.
Ejaaz:
See you guys.
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