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Josh:
So just yesterday spacex launched their fully stacked

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starship which measures almost 500 feet

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tall it's the largest object that's ever gone to space and two parts went up

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both parts came down and they both exploded catastrophic explosion and the explosion

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was gigantic everything that went up came down everything blew up but the point

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of this mission is that that's actually exactly how it was supposed to go. It was a wild success.

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These test flights, when SpaceX sends these up, they're not expected to land.

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In fact, most times they don't. And this is the first time where it actually

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landed in the right place.

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So Ijaz, what you're seeing in this video here is the booster that is kind of

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hovering above ground before falling into the ocean and exploding. So this was amazing.

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Ijaz, I know you were also watching the launch last night. What were your first

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impressions? What did you think watching this?

Ejaaz:
My first impressions was, why is this thing

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exploding josh and i have to be honest for

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our listeners here um josh i see you're rocking the

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spacex hoodie let's go you can

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see that i'm rocking a horse which is pretty much the opposite of a rocket i'm

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old school i'm old-fashioned and i'm like okay this rocket is cool alon's launched

Ejaaz:
a bunch of spaceships already what's so special about this and after digging

Ejaaz:
under the hood josh this is actually super impressive.

Ejaaz:
I think the one line which kind of like bamboozles me about SpaceX's vision

Ejaaz:
is they're building the infrastructure for space.

Ejaaz:
I think up until, you know, very recently, many people thought of space as like

Ejaaz:
this kind of like cool thing. It's like, yeah, it's a once in a lifetime mission.

Ejaaz:
It's going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars. But what SpaceX is trying

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to do is reduce the cost of that to the equivalent of like a bus ride,

Ejaaz:
So that becomes pretty normal to colonize humans outside of Earth.

Ejaaz:
But can you explain why this launch is so important, Josh?

Josh:
Yeah. So Starship Mission, I mean, like you were saying, to back it up,

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is the intention is to get to Mars.

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And they're very dead set on getting to Mars. And the problem with getting to

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Mars is that you need to have a low cost per kilogram to orbit.

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That's kind of how this thing works is if you can't get mass to orbit,

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then you can't create a copy of Earth to live on Mars.

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And the thing with colonizing Mars is that you actually need every single thing

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that Earth needs in order to be self-sustainable in the case that the planes

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or the rockets stop coming.

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So, Ejaz, if you send, let's say, 100 million tons to Mars, but you forget vitamin

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C, everything dies over a certain period of time.

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So you really need to be able to deliver every single critical element for life.

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And that requires a ton, literally metric tons of mass to orbit.

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And the problem is getting that

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cost down to as low as humanly possible. So back in the day in this with the

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space shuttle program, it cost $60,000 per kilogram to orbit.

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With the new starship, the projection is hopefully going to be as low as $50 per kilogram to orbit.

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So this is like a huge decrease in how they're able to do this.

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And the reason they're able to do this is because of rapid reusability.

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And that's what we saw yesterday. That was the idea of the test yesterday is

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to test how reusable these rockets are.

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So we probably should talk about the reason why this test in particular was

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different than all the others. And it's because of the heat shield.

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Now, the heat shield is a very critical part of this rocket because the heat

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shield is the single most challenging part to get right in order for the rocket to relaunch itself.

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So what we're seeing here is the crux of the heat shield, the way that they've

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been able to make it work.

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Because a lot of times, the reason why a rocket can't survive is when it comes

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back to orbit at 25 000 kilometers per hour uh

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it's really freaking hot and that's a lot of plasma it's a lot of heat

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and it just melts everything but what we're seeing here on screen is this

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thing called the bakery where starship literally bakes

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18 000 of these tiles the same way your grandma

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would they take some ceramic they throw it in an oven they cook

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it and on the way out comes out these little hexagons they stack

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18 000 of them together and it blocks

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the shields from overheating the problem is again

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you just the reusability where you need to be able to get this

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rocket back to earth and then take off rapidly right afterwards and

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the problem is that they've been falling apart like they've kind of fallen

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off some of them don't hold some of them

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can't resist the heat properly so what they did is they invented this thing

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called the crunch wrap which is such an outrageous name shout out from taco

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bell yeah we're seeing the crunch wrap supreme literally like the crunch wrap

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supreme that's where they get the inspiration from and i love this and what

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we're seeing on screen is oh they were actually able to take these tiles,

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these little ceramic plates, and they wrap them in this felt material.

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And the problem when you're going through space really hot is the metal expands

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and contracts quite a bit.

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So you need to have space in between the tiles, but that space let a lot of heat in.

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So what they did is they created this kind of malleable material,

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which is the felt, and it allows the metal to heat up and expand and condense

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and shrink while keeping these heat shields all intact. And it was amazing.

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And what happened on this launch was they lost less than 1% of the heat shield

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tiles, where in the past, they lost 5% to 10%.

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So the fact that they got this number down so low is the single probably biggest

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win of this entire test flight yesterday that we saw was the fact that they

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have a reusable heat shield. It's never been done before at this scale.

Ejaaz:
Okay, so if I were to summarize what you just said, Josh,

Ejaaz:
you're saying that the reason why Elon is testing out so many of these rockets

Ejaaz:
and blowing all of these up is to come to the ideal rocket architecture that

Ejaaz:
can colonize humanity outside of Earth. Have I got that first part right?

Josh:
Absolutely. Yeah. You got to build something that scales and that can be mass manufactured.

Ejaaz:
Okay, cool. And so to get there, he needs to reduce the cost of taking heavy stuff up, right?

Ejaaz:
Like right now, when it started off with the first rocket from NASA,

Ejaaz:
it was super expensive, hundreds of millions of dollars.

Ejaaz:
Reducing that cost to something much, much cheaper than that is important,

Ejaaz:
but also reusability is important, right? Josh, that's one way to kind of like drive it down.

Ejaaz:
It's like, if I can use the same rocket ship over and over again and not have

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to reconstruct a new rocket ship every time one comes down and crashes,

Ejaaz:
we should be fine, right? So both of those things kind of are running in parallel.

Ejaaz:
And you're saying one major factor to help us get there are these heat-proof

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shields or these heat-proof tiles, which are getting built in this SpaceX bakery.

Ejaaz:
That's what we're calling it, right? These countries.

Ejaaz:
Are these things literally made of ceramic, by the way?

Josh:
They're literally made of ceramic. It's so funny. it's just like what you did

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in like elementary school middle school art class um it's no different than

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that they put a little coat on the top it's like a little more sophisticated

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than that but basically they're just baking ceramic taco

Ejaaz:
Okay so where my mind goes to immediately next josh is um with the things that

Ejaaz:
they're taking to space what what kinds of things are they going to be taking

Ejaaz:
to space like i get the the mars thing right and that i still can't quite wrap

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my head around because i'm like okay you like what materials are you taking that are you

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bricks to build a house like how do we know if we can even live there but um

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the most immediate thing that i remember us speaking about a few

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episodes ago was satellites right and

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these satellites are part of starlink v3 which is getting

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um you know their new satellite um structure which is

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basically going to beam down i think it was like 60 terabits worth of data to

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earth which is the equivalent of me having like super fast internet cabled internet

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at home but anywhere i am like wherever i am if i'm on a quaint little mountainside

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um where i usually won't have reception,

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Am I getting that right? Is there any other thing that I'm missing in between

Ejaaz:
satellites and building homes on Mars?

Josh:
Well, that's pretty much it.

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It's satellites, and then the satellites fund the mission to get to Mars.

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So Starlink is one of the largest cash cows of SpaceX, along with the private

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missions that they send up on behalf of governments or private industry,

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where they will take large satellites and they will send them into space.

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What Starship enables, like you said, it's just much

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bigger objects into orbit so like you

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mentioned the starlink v3 has 60 terabits of downlink

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speed per launch whereas the falcon

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9 launches with the starlink v2 or 2.5 that

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they're at now they only had three terabits per second

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of downlink so every single one of these starship launches is equivalent

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to 20 old launches which is

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just an outrageously large scale at how quickly they're going to improve this

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network and not only that but the latency comes down the total bandwidth goes

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way up it has a much further range and yeah we're seeing on screen kind of the

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difference between them so the version 1.5 fairly small version 2 pretty big

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version 3 is like gigantic it is dude

Ejaaz:
This is like much bigger 10 times larger than v 1.5.

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So much larger and it's it's really exciting because version 3 satellites will

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enable people like me and you to actually be inclined to use the network a lot

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of people now for starlink the users they're in the middle of nowhere.

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They're not in very highly populated areas because that's where it kind of works

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the best. There's not a ton of bandwidth on the network.

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If you live in the middle of the woods somewhere remote, or if you live in like

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some super foreign place in a jungle, you use Starlink. It works amazing.

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But when you apply these high bandwidth satellites, not only can you use them

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in more densely populated areas, but like we had in our episode a few weeks

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ago, you could actually go direct to cell.

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So EJs, if we're going on a hike somewhere in the middle of nowhere,

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well, now your cell phone could actually get service too, thanks to these new satellites.

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So it enables this huge unlock in terms of satellites but then also in terms

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of SpaceX Starlink satellites but then also in terms of private industry there's

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a lot of telescopes there's a lot of rovers like a lot of these larger objects

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that want to go to space but have no vehicle to take them there

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Starship enables that and all of these tests like you were mentioning Starship

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the test flight 11 last night it's all in an effort to find a flight proven

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architecture basically create the blueprint that you could then copy and paste

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and start doing this at scale like we saw with the last Rocket the Falcon 9.

Ejaaz:
Okay, Josh, I want to talk about the spacecraft itself.

Ejaaz:
This thing is huge. What we're seeing is an image of this spacecraft next to some old models.

Ejaaz:
You know, we've got the old school NASA models.

Ejaaz:
And just height-wise, this thing is crazy. And it's super thin.

Ejaaz:
Like if i remember correctly the outer shell of this spacecraft is the thickness

Ejaaz:
of two credit cards put together sorry how is that possible.

Josh:
It's outrageous they use hfs which stands for hard f and steel and he does if

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you if you that is the scientific name it's hfs i swear to you there's no way

Ejaaz:
That's right i'm gonna look that up.

Josh:
Well it's real and actually you can go outside and see this right now you just

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because if you go and check out the cyber trucks that are rolling down the road

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which there are plenty of in the city um they are wrapped with the same exact

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hfs that is on starship it is just a cold rolled stainless steel that

Ejaaz:
Is super strong you're not lying.

Josh:
It's called hfs um and it's it's

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remarkably strong strong that's why uh your cyber truck is bulletproof

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it's because it's made of the same stuff that starships are made of um and

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a lot of the the complexity comes from actually pressurizing the cabin

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so that they don't um either collapse under pressure or

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over expand under pressure but the scale is gigantic it is what we're seeing

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here is um the starship basically consists of two parts there's the first stage

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which is at the bottom that's the booster they call that super heavy and then

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there's the second stage which is the actual ship on top and both of those ones stacked together

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394 feet tall so that is equivalent to about 40

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stories tall so you just if you ever stood on top of a 40-story building you've

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looked out that is the the view from the top of starship it is unbelievably

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tall it's 30 taller than the statue of liberty i think it's 60 feet shorter

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than the great pyramid of giza this thing is like gigantic and yeah you can

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see here for scale on the video humans

Ejaaz:
People just look tiny yes so so so josh the the super heavy part part one the

Ejaaz:
booster is that primarily to get the ship you know up into the air is that primarily

Ejaaz:
just like fuel and rocket boosters.

Josh:
That's exactly right so the the booster exists literally

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for its name to boost the ship into earth

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orbit or low earth orbit at least because earth's atmosphere is

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super dense it takes a lot of energy to break through it but once

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you've broken through it and you're in the low earth orbit and going into outer

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space there's a lot less atmosphere there's a lot less friction against your

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ship you just need that smaller top part to actually go

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out into deep space um and this is where

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the payload is right exactly so the entire

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booster that whole bottom part that you're seeing it's all fuel

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100 of that bottom part is fuel and then

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most of the top part is actually fuel too like a large percentage of

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the stack is just fuel and then towards the

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very top of the bay is about room for 150

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tons of reusable payload um so it's

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a lot of fuel and actually one of the interesting things that they're going to

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start doing with the next version version three of the

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rocket is they're going to refuel that top part in space

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so what they'll do is they'll send up two versions of the ship one

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is a tanker and then one is the actual ship they meet in

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orbit and they kind of like kiss each other and then one refuels the other and

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that's how it's able to get out to mars um so it's this really remarkable thing

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what we're seeing here is the the rendering of the version three and that's

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that's exactly the kissing that i'm talking about they they have a tanker and

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then they have the ship and they connect and that's how you refuel it

Ejaaz:
So um this launch that we just watched um that was intentionally exploded is

Ejaaz:
the sign before we move on to this next version that we're seeing on our screens

Ejaaz:
right josh can you tell us like what the major differences are and what we can expect.

Josh:
Yeah so one of the biggest differences this is

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the thing that i am absolutely obsessed with is the raptor 3 engine so they

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have a whole new engine architecture that you're using and as a result a lot

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of things need to change so what you just saw in the past one it was a new fuel

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tank everything about the outside mostly looks the same everything about the

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inside is changing so the fuel distribution is changing a lot of the um

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the telemetry things the grid fins that control the ship are changing but the

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most notable part is these raptor 3 engines and it is if you go back actually

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to that image i love this image so much because it shows the three iterations

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of raptor and it just shows like what what a great company is possible is is

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capable of doing seems much less

Ejaaz:
Complex than yes.

Josh:
But it's much more powerful too so that raptor 1

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engine had was so complicated it looks

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like a bird's nest there's so much stuff going on it's really difficult to understand

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it has to have its own heat shield built in and it weighed

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2 000 kilograms so it's not

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very reusable it weighs a ton and it

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is only able to i mean only able to the thrust that you can

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get out of it is 185 tons raptor 2 looks a lot more elegant and raptor 2 that

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decreased the weight by 400 kilograms it has some more heat shield built in

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so there's a little less maintenance before and after each flight to reuse it

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but still pretty complicated and lifts the thrust up to 230 tons.

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Now, Raptor 3 looks like you could put that in a museum. It's gorgeous.

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All of the complexities are embedded inside of the engine. It is much more complex.

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And yet, it has a record-setting 269 tons of thrust. It weighs 100 kilograms, even less than Raptor 2.

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And there are no major limitations, meaning it can just go up into orbit,

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come back down, relight, and go right back again.

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So it is this unbelievably complex engineering challenge that they took on and

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that they were able to do.

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And I think it's a testament to how SpaceX operates. It's just really considering

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these things from first principles.

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Like, how can we make an engine the best possible thing using no off-the-shelf

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parts? All this is custom tooling.

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And as a result, they got an engine that is way faster. And like,

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look at this video that's it is so much force that's that's 269 tons of thrust

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from one single engine um it's it's a marvel

Ejaaz:
This seems like something straight out of a movie josh um like i i feel like

Ejaaz:
if you tell anyone that um how many of these did you say are going to be in

Ejaaz:
the new new ship oh i want to.

Josh:
Say there's 31 to 33 something like that there's a good bit of right

Ejaaz:
Right so if you told me that hey, 33 of these two credit cards worth thick Raptor

Ejaaz:
rockets are going to blast 150 tons and much, much more probably in V3.

Ejaaz:
Up into space, into orbit, I would probably laugh at you. I would be like,

Ejaaz:
this thing is flimsy. I don't know if I could trust this. Why is it wiggling around?

Ejaaz:
There is no other company that is building like this, Josh. And I was trying

Ejaaz:
to think about, you know, other kind of competitors that come even near SpaceX.

Ejaaz:
And I just fall flat every single time. I think Elon and SpaceX and the engineers

Ejaaz:
and what they've built and what they've achieved to date is in a league of their own.

Josh:
Truly. There's nobody who's close. There's a lot of companies who are trying

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to build interesting things, but there is genuinely no one on Earth who's close

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in the sense that if SpaceX shuts down tomorrow, we have no space program.

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We have no easy and affordable way of getting satellites into low Earth orbit.

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We have no aspirations for becoming multi-planetary species.

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We have no redundant internet.

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If we lose connection down on Earth, we have no secondary network to exist in

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space. So it is very much a monopoly.

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And you could start to understand why when you see how complex these things

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are, how big they are at scale.

Josh:
And yeah, I love the image you're showing here because there's also really great culture there too.

Josh:
This is an image from their, I guess, from Starbase, right? Where they take these things off from.

Ejaaz:
It's to get into Starship. Actually, it's the top level.

Ejaaz:
And before you walk in, you see this painting, which is just probably the most

Ejaaz:
inspiring thing ever if you're an astronaut going up in one of these things.

Josh:
And it's this beautifully like hand-painted astronaut holding his hand out,

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starship in the reflection, standing on Mars.

Josh:
It's really amazing. And one of the funny things is a lot of people just,

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There's this disconnect between saying we're going to Mars and then actually

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understanding the downstream effects of getting to Mars.

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And I think a funny thing that I learned from following SpaceX over the years

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is that they actually have entire teams dedicated to coming up with life on

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Mars, meaning like here is everything we need to ship.

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Here is how the government structure is going to look. Here is how we're going

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to like distribute supplies. Here is how we're going to build the first base,

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the second base, the third base.

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And there are teams that have been doing this for years because they are so

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certain that their mission will succeed, that they will be able to get life

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on Mars. And they do have a rough timeline trajectory.

Josh:
I think first moon missions are going for 2028 and then the Mars mission around 2030, I believe.

Josh:
So within the next five years, people will actually, or at least rockets will be on their way to Mars,

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which is, it's just cool it's a really exciting thing yesterday's launch

Josh:
was amazing progress everything that could have gone right

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went right um and it was really a step in the right direction because

Josh:
the last couple of launches this is this was launched number

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11 they had some serious problems like there

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was one of the rockets it fully exploded prior

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to even getting off the launch pad a total detonation destroyed

Josh:
the launch pad they had to rebuild it there was another rocket that um

Josh:
when it tried to get pressurized it totally exploded so there's been a lot of

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problems along the way last night's flight was amazing everything went about

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as good as it could have and what we're going to see soon is they're going to

Josh:
try to actually catch the starship rocket which is going to be a really exciting

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development because once they get that thing caught

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We're on our way.

Ejaaz:
I really hope this happens in my lifetime. I hope that the cost of travel to

Ejaaz:
get to space is affordable enough that I can go with me, my kids,

Ejaaz:
maybe even my mom and kind of like see what's up and out there,

Ejaaz:
maybe even a colony on a different planet.

Ejaaz:
It's interesting, as we have gone through this conversation,

Ejaaz:
I kind of think as Mars is like the first step to all of this.

Ejaaz:
I remember when I was a kid growing up thinking like Mars was this like really,

Ejaaz:
really far off thing to happen. Definitely not in my lifetime.

Ejaaz:
And now it just seems like, you know, it'll happen and then we're on to the

Ejaaz:
next big kind of planetary jump.

Ejaaz:
Satellites getting out there, moving different types of payloads,

Ejaaz:
whether it's like telescopes that you mentioned earlier. I feel like it's all just phase one.

Ejaaz:
I can't even imagine what comes next. But I know that there's only one company

Ejaaz:
that is doing this. It is SpaceX.

Ejaaz:
They cut the cost of space flight initially down to, what was the falcon 9 um

Ejaaz:
cost cutting josh do you do you remember this they cut it down to like a 12th

Ejaaz:
or like 126 it's it's one of those numbers.

Josh:
It was some outrageously low number yeah of

Josh:
how how low it went relative to others there's also

Josh:
a video you just i'm going to send you that i would love to show

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because it's just um it's it's awesome to

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see the effect it has on other people

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like it's more than just a mission so one of the cool things is

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is the downstream effects of getting to mars means that we have

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unlocked a ton of new technology it means that we have um

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we're able to create food and life on

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another planet which means we need to have a lot of forms of portable energy a

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lot better battery technology a lot better agricultural technology

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but also this video that we're showing on screen it's like what's inspiring

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the next generation to want to do cool badass stuff like it's

Josh:
it's so fun being able to sit down and watch these launches and

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and see like these kids just sitting down and like getting super expired

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because for a long time when children when

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we're growing up like the thing they wanted to be was an astronaut that

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was the coolest thing and now the most popular answer is like oh i want to be

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a tiktoker i want to be an influencer and i really i mean personally i love

Josh:
the idea of people starting to get inspired by seeing things like this to want

Josh:
to do these ambitious things to build rockets to go to outer space to build

Josh:
satellites to give us internet from the stars like it's just

Josh:
More than anything, it's an inspiring mission. And thankfully,

Josh:
they've managed to put an economic engine on it to continue to fund the progress

Josh:
that happens and to continue to work on this mission of getting payload to orbit.

Ejaaz:
Where do I buy this stock? Honestly, I know it's still a private company,

Ejaaz:
but I need to get my hands on this.

Ejaaz:
Makes me very bullish, Elon, if I wasn't already bullish enough on all his other

Ejaaz:
companies, if I wasn't already clear about that on this show.

Ejaaz:
Josh, is there anything else that you need to share with us about this?

Josh:
Well, there's one more forward-looking thing that you actually mentioned this

Josh:
to me a little while ago, is that you're like, well, why can I not get to London in like 20 minutes?

Josh:
And this is very much that answer. It's like, if you are able to really just

Josh:
perfect the reusable rocket ship where you create this, an airplane,

Josh:
but for vertical takeoff and landing.

Josh:
I mean, when we were watching the launch last night, that starship went across the world in an hour.

Josh:
Like it was on the complete other side of the planet in an hour.

Josh:
So if you can create this technology and you can actually really refine it,

Josh:
produce it at scale, and you lower the cost to orbit down to $50 per kilogram,

Josh:
well, I would imagine the cost to low Earth orbit or sub orbit,

Josh:
which takes you up and then over and then into Europe, would probably be not that expensive.

Josh:
And you could basically get anywhere in the world in like 45 minutes or less.

Ejaaz:
So the funny part is, I think you could sell a lot of people on that.

Ejaaz:
I think a lot of people will start talking about sex would be super.

Ejaaz:
But if I told my mom that, like, hey, you could go to Japan.

Ejaaz:
It's been a dream of hers to go to Japan in 20 minutes. She would be down.

Josh:
Yeah. So I think that's an important thing they want to leave people with is

Josh:
it's not only about getting to Mars.

Josh:
It's the second order effects that come from understanding the technology to

Josh:
get to Mars, where we can mass produce these rocket ships.

Josh:
If we have all this new technology, it gets applied to a lot of really interesting

Josh:
industries, like the vertical takeoff landing rockets, where you and your mom

Josh:
can go to Japan for lunch and then come home before dinnertime.

Josh:
And like that's just an easy and normal thing so it leaves a

Josh:
a lot of, I think, optimism and excitement around for, for me.

Josh:
And I think for a lot of people who watch all of these launches,

Josh:
it's just, it's awesome to see there's more coming each as we were talking yesterday.

Josh:
We got to go to Texas, go see one.

Ejaaz:
We're going to go. We are going to go.

Josh:
Let's do it. Cause that'd be a dream. These things are early next year.

Ejaaz:
We're going to have it in the background as Josh and I live stream our updates

Ejaaz:
about it. I cannot wait. I need to get myself a SpaceX hoodie as well.

Josh:
Hell yeah. Yeah. We'll get matching hoodies and also Easter egg for anyone who's

Josh:
near texas um all there's a law in texas where all the beaches are public

Josh:
and starbase where they launch these starships the beach

Josh:
sits right next to the launch pad so you can

Josh:
actually go to the beach and be like less than a mile away from this gigantic

Josh:
rocket ship and really get a great view of it um and just see what it's like

Josh:
up close so when we go that's exactly where we're going and i am i'm really

Josh:
looking forward to seeing one of these in person because my god what what an

Josh:
exciting thing that would be i can't wait well tom cruise of top

Ejaaz:
Gun step aside there is a new cowboy he's a

Ejaaz:
space cowboy in town elon is leading the way on

Ejaaz:
spacex um i cannot wait for the next couple

Ejaaz:
of launches it seems to me that like every new launch gets that much less complex

Ejaaz:
but somehow way more powerful and somehow way more cheaper and i still i know

Ejaaz:
i keep talking about it somehow way more thinner um josh unless there's anything

Ejaaz:
else to say let's um let's round this up.

Josh:
Let's wrap it up that's it so the next launch is going to be version three this

Josh:
was the last launch of version two architecture the whole new the new launch

Josh:
is brand new everything about the internals are going to be new all this new

Josh:
stuff is rolling out we will be here covering it all the way um but until then

Josh:
that's been an episode on spacex starship

Josh:
launch 9 launch 11 launch 11 i'm losing track yeah it's 11 thank you guys for

Josh:
watching as always very much appreciated any final prompts before we go um

Ejaaz:
No but tell us if you enjoyed this space episode um josh and i i i consider

Ejaaz:
myself an amateur when it comes to these things josh is is super enthusiastic

Ejaaz:
and plugged in and i love learning from him but do you guys enjoy learning about

Ejaaz:
this stuff if not is there a different angle that we can cover are there other

Ejaaz:
space companies out there i already know the answer there is not.

Josh:
Let us know let us know well thank you for watching we'll see you guys in the next one