Limitless Podcast

Ejaaz:
Now, you've all heard of ChatGPT. At some point, everyone's used an AI chatbot now.

Ejaaz:
But what if I told you this week, not one, but two brand new AI tools just dropped

Ejaaz:
that will change the way you interact with AI on a daily basis?

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The first was released by OpenAI called Group Chats, which, in my opinion,

Ejaaz:
is going to kill iMessage. It's going to change text and group messaging forever.

Ejaaz:
And the second is called NanoBanana Pro, released by none other than Google

Ejaaz:
themselves, their new text-to-image generation model powered by the almighty

Ejaaz:
and all-powerful Gemini Pro 3.

Ejaaz:
There's so much to unpack with these tools, so I want to get right into it.

Ejaaz:
But Josh, I haven't seen you in a while.

Ejaaz:
For context of the listeners, Josh and I have been traveling this entire week,

Ejaaz:
so I haven't caught up with Josh. Josh, like, what's been going on?

Josh:
I've had a really, really good week. A huge week in my life. Very exciting times.

Josh:
I think it's probably time to share with the audience kind of like what's been

Josh:
going on more behind the scenes in my personal life, if that's cool with you.

Josh:
I shared a few photos, but if you don't mind, us walking through them.

Josh:
Okay yeah yeah yeah so um yeah married married this weekend which was really

Josh:
exciting yeah you just i'm not sure if you knew that i am friends with quite

Josh:
a few celebrities um beyonce tom cruise,

Josh:
um josh what the hell yeah is that kendall.

Ejaaz:
Jenner are you

Josh:
Going to congratulate me or are you just going to stare wait.

Ejaaz:
Dude i'm just looking through these pics

Josh:
There's another one yeah down the aisle okay

Josh:
it's a very beautiful wedding very grateful to have people like beyonce around

Josh:
with me leo dicaprio you know all the homies oh you're

Josh:
skipping too far ahead man it's the after party i mean the after

Josh:
party was great was in good company we had uh we had elon sundar

Josh:
tim cook all you know all of the homies they

Josh:
were all just kind of hanging out afterwards talking shop talking about the future

Josh:
of AI and then honeymoon afterwards which was pretty

Josh:
eventful I really enjoyed yeah I went to

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the beach well you had a good time undisclosed location you know when you roll

Josh:
with high high people like that you can't really talk about what you're doing

Josh:
but also just kidding this is all AI because there's the photo with Elon as

Josh:
well and this is just like so while we were preparing for this episode I was

Josh:
like well let's just try to use nano banana and come up with some dumb, funny stuff.

Josh:
And it works so well. This is a fully AI generated version. Granted,

Josh:
they gave Elon probably a couple more packs on his gut than he really has in person.

Josh:
It looks great. And it's a testament to...

Josh:
Not to scale. It's a testament to how amazing these new AI image generation

Josh:
models are. They are fantastic.

Josh:
This is the official announcement released from Sundar. Nano Banana Pro is out.

Josh:
The images you just saw earlier, those are all done with a single prompt in Nano Banana.

Josh:
We mentioned it in the roundup last week, but I figured it would be good to

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have an episode about this and

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the group chats because there's a lot more than I think we spoke about.

Josh:
And as I've used it more, I've started to learn a lot more about the capabilities

Josh:
and it is blowing my mind across the spectrum.

Josh:
One of the things that's unique to the new model is that it's really good at

Josh:
understanding diagrams for some reason. Diagrams is the hot new use case.

Josh:
So we have a lot of examples that we could walk through. One of them is with Notebook LM.

Josh:
This is Google's AI tool that integrates with Nano Banana. And it shows an infographic

Josh:
to a book. So this is an author who posted this.

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And the author has a story that he tells through the book.

Josh:
So what Notebook does, it ingests the content of the book,

Josh:
turns it into a visual graphic and then

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plots all of the plot like the plot elements and

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the characters and the the context all onto a map so you could kind of see how

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the book is visually and yeah you could keep going through these examples and

Josh:
if you're not listening i highly suggest going to spotify or youtube watching

Josh:
this because the examples are are pretty incredible these are cool yeah you

Josh:
just have you had a chance to play around with this at all the new i i.

Ejaaz:
Actually haven't so this dropped what like three days

Ejaaz:
ago now josh very recently i haven't i've been able to get around to it but

Ejaaz:
i have to say like i i'm comparing this my other checkpoint was with nano banana

Ejaaz:
version one and this is just so much better i mean the fidelity on these things

Ejaaz:
the intricacies of these diagrams like i wish i had these

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Like the way my mind jumps right now is like, I wish I had these back at school

Ejaaz:
or like high school or college. Yeah.

Ejaaz:
Because this would help me learn things in so many different ways. This is awesome.

Josh:
Wow. It's cool. And if you have a book that you like, you can just upload the

Josh:
book and it will create a full visual diagram, plot line, the whole thing of the book.

Josh:
And it doesn't stop there. There's an example that I saw that I loved,

Josh:
which was for LinkedIn, people who are looking for jobs, people who want to

Josh:
kind of show their career path.

Josh:
This is an infographic trend where you can upload your LinkedIn to Nano Banana

Josh:
and it will create a career path for you. In whatever theme that you want.

Ejaaz:
It's already a better product than LinkedIn, Josh.

Josh:
Oh, yeah, right. How cool is this? So what you're seeing on screen here is like,

Josh:
okay, the person started maybe in high school or college.

Josh:
It shows the railroad track, how they're going through their career.

Josh:
It looks like they're at Google from 2009 to the present.

Josh:
And you could really, you could see in a very fun visual way,

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all the accomplishments they've done, their kind of journey through their career.

Josh:
It's really, really cool.

Josh:
And in a way, this is a much more exciting LinkedIn resume. And I think it's

Josh:
probably a testament to the new creative unlocks that we'll see as people start

Josh:
to learn more about Nano Banana and understand how it works.

Josh:
Just like how impressively fun it can be across the spectrum.

Josh:
If you're looking for a job, this is a great way to stand out.

Ejaaz:
Josh, what about this? This is insane. So for those of you who are listening,

Ejaaz:
these are all of Josh's friends who, funnily enough, turned up to his fake wedding.

Ejaaz:
I'm actually upset that you aren't actually with Kendall Jenner because you

Ejaaz:
guys are such a great couple in that image.

Ejaaz:
I'm sure many people are gonna give that a go but right now i'm staring at an

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image of a bunch of celebrities

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on the rooftop of what looks to be some kind of penthouse apartment building

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and we have iron man we've got tony stark we've got wolf of wall street leo

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dicaprio we've got zendaya in in the spider man costume what happened to tom

Ejaaz:
holland we've got um beyonce j-lo so many people what is going on here you know what it is josh um

Ejaaz:
It's so like strikingly accurate. It's way more accurate. It's less fake.

Ejaaz:
Like I'm looking at these and I'm like, you know what? If I was looking at this

Ejaaz:
from afar, this would be totally convincing if this was posted on social media.

Josh:
And this is a one-shot prompt too. This was one prompt. It didn't even list

Josh:
the celebrities. It just asked for celebrities and it gave them all of these.

Josh:
I think one of the fun things that we're starting to see with image generation

Josh:
models is the ability to use people.

Josh:
A lot of these examples, they use actual faces, actual people.

Josh:
And previously that hasn't really been possible in these image gen models.

Josh:
So they're slowly lowering the threshold of what's acceptable,

Josh:
or I guess slowly raising the threshold of what's acceptable in terms of what

Josh:
types of content you could create using these models.

Josh:
And I guess eventually it poses some questions. You said the scary word copyright

Josh:
or trademark or likeness.

Josh:
As you can start to use these more and more with more accuracy,

Josh:
it does feel like a bit of a slippery slope, but I'm loving it because it's

Josh:
just so much fun to play around with.

Ejaaz:
So if you remember when Sora 2, which is OpenAI's text-to-video app,

Ejaaz:
so it's like TikTok, but AI-generated videos, when it first launched,

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it was using celebrity media to create a bunch of cameos.

Ejaaz:
Do you remember this? I was looking at Jake Paul. I was looking at Tom Cruise.

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I was looking at a bunch of these celebrities that were looking on our screen

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right now in a video with me or with my friends. And I was like,

Ejaaz:
whoa, this is strikingly realistic.

Ejaaz:
This is super cool. But eventually they started disabling a bunch of the abilities

Ejaaz:
to cameo with those celebrities because of the copyright things.

Ejaaz:
I'm now wondering how Google is able to kind of pull this off,

Ejaaz:
right? Because I can imagine that some of these celebrities in this picture

Ejaaz:
will be fine with doing that.

Ejaaz:
But other celebrities probably would hate that.

Ejaaz:
So I'm curious how they're going to tread that line as to what's legal and what's illegal here.

Josh:
I really hope they keep their foot on the gas because I'm enjoying this.

Josh:
But EJ, you also mentioned education, learning as ways to learn.

Josh:
There are tons of educational tools here. This one being one of my favorites.

Josh:
The post says, until a few hours ago, creating this kind of scientific image

Josh:
would have required at least an hour of professional work.

Josh:
Now with Nano Banana Pro, it takes a simple prompt and less than 30 seconds.

Josh:
The prompt was described in an illustration the events for a psiotoxic T cell

Josh:
recognizing and killing a cancer cell.

Josh:
And it created this beautiful graphic that very clearly shows how a cell can kill a cancer cell.

Josh:
And I think it's just this really big unlock where particularly if you're a visual learner,

Josh:
you could ask the model to describe to you basically anything you want and it

Josh:
can create these educational visual graphics that used to be only available

Josh:
to people in textbooks and limited in scope to whatever the textbook was talking about.

Josh:
This on the other hand does not. It's fully open-ended and yeah,

Josh:
this is another example here.

Josh:
So on the screen, we're seeing this kind of diagram that shows a horse's mouth and the teeth.

Josh:
And apparently, this is what I just learned today, is that you can determine

Josh:
a horse's age by its teeth.

Josh:
And in a single prompt, it was able to generate a visual guide that shows you

Josh:
on a spectrum how old the horse would be based on what the teeth look like.

Josh:
And I find this so fascinating and so useful because if there's anything you

Josh:
ever wanna learn about, not only can you do it, but you can get a completely

Josh:
high fidelity, high accuracy visual graphic on anything and then share that with the world.

Josh:
So I imagine marketplaces for this could hopefully show up where textbooks now

Josh:
are much more accessible. Visual graphics are much more accessible.

Josh:
Art in general is much more accessible, but just learning and being able to

Josh:
have this visual companion tool is so cool.

Josh:
So Nano Banana Pro, again, this is just like the onion that keeps getting peeled

Josh:
back. There are so many layers to what it's capable of.

Josh:
And as we go, we'll just continue to find more. And I'm loving playing around with it.

Ejaaz:
Yeah, I mean, being such a visual learner myself, I could have really used and

Ejaaz:
will continue to use something like this going forwards when I learn any brand new concept.

Ejaaz:
Like when I was if I go back to the tweet where it's like showing how this T

Ejaaz:
cell kills a cancer cell.

Ejaaz:
I've read so many paragraphs in my grade school literature books,

Ejaaz:
science books explaining how this works. But if I had this kind of like clear,

Ejaaz:
succinct image for every single concept that I didn't understand,

Ejaaz:
I'd probably have done a lot, lot better.

Ejaaz:
So this is super cool. I'm excited about how this kind of like changes performance

Ejaaz:
for kids growing up with AI.

Ejaaz:
It's kind of weird to think that like now any kid being born today will not

Ejaaz:
know what it was like to grow up without having AI as a tool to kind of help them learn things.

Ejaaz:
So this is like really game changing stuff. You may not see it immediately in

Ejaaz:
front of you on TikTok, on social media, but you will see it in the realms of education,

Ejaaz:
kind of work progress, and kind of like building each other's careers up,

Ejaaz:
you know, to reference the example that you used earlier on in their lives. So this is super cool.

Ejaaz:
Josh, how do I get access to something like this?

Ejaaz:
I'm seeing, you know, Google AI Ultra subscribers get access,

Ejaaz:
but is that all? Are there other ways to do this?

Josh:
So if you're a pro subscriber, you get access to it for $20 a month.

Josh:
And what we're seeing here on this post actually is the next

Josh:
extension of nano banana pro because if you're

Josh:
an ultra subscriber and you use the google flow studio you can

Josh:
actually turn these images into videos and all

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the fun images that we just saw created earlier in the day and if

Josh:
you scroll down a little bit you can see you could generate actual movies

Josh:
with them so none of this stuff that you're seeing on

Josh:
screen is real um it was all generated with an image and then the image was

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animated so if you want to do like if I wanted to walk down the aisle per se

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I can generate the aisle image and then have myself walk down the aisle or go

Josh:
swimming in the ocean or whatever it may be because again it has all the image

Josh:
physics real world simulation stuff and I think,

Josh:
What we're seeing is this natural progression between image generation to video

Josh:
generation to 3D modeling to like virtual worlds.

Josh:
And it very much feels like there's a clear trend here. And that's Nano Banana.

Josh:
There's so much fun to be had there. You can make some images,

Josh:
you can animate the images, turn them into movies, graphics,

Josh:
videos, whatever you want.

Josh:
The options are limitless. And this really feels like one of the first times in the world of visuals.

Josh:
Oh yeah, they really messed up my face there.

Ejaaz:
Man. I can't get over this image. Dude, they messed up your face.

Ejaaz:
They messed up your face. Everything else is nailed.

Josh:
They're missing a few apps on the bottom. They could have refined a little bit more.

Ejaaz:
I think so. Listen, Kendall, if you're listening to this, I already know you're

Ejaaz:
listening to this. You look beautiful. We're not hating on you.

Ejaaz:
Feel free to reach out to the podcast if you want to feature on it.

Josh:
Or me if you just want to call me.

Ejaaz:
Yep, yep, yep. If you want to make this a reality, we're all about manifesting realities here.

Ejaaz:
What a crazy tool. I think like aside from social media, this is going to be

Ejaaz:
used for so many other wonderful things.

Ejaaz:
I think people see a tool like this, Josh, and they're kind of like, oh, who cares?

Ejaaz:
A bunch of fake social media misinformation that their minds kind of jump to the negative sense.

Ejaaz:
But I think this is going to be used for a lot of positive good,

Ejaaz:
including manifesting who we're going to marry.

Josh:
So let's get that going. As always, it's a tool. It cuts both ways.

Josh:
But that is not the only cool tool today, EJ. We got another one from OpenAI.

Ejaaz:
Right. Enter my realm. This is the tool I'm most pumped about, Josh.

Ejaaz:
I've been waiting for this for a while because ever since ChatGPT got released,

Ejaaz:
my number one request, aside from memory, was...

Ejaaz:
Can I share these conversations with my friends? Can I have these AI discussions with my friends?

Ejaaz:
And finally, this week, OpenAI announced a feature called Group Chats,

Ejaaz:
which basically allows you to have the same chat GPT conversation that you guys

Ejaaz:
have every day, but invite your friends to collaborate on it.

Ejaaz:
Now, before we go any further, I need to give you guys a breakdown as to what the hell this thing is.

Ejaaz:
So it's basically, it's a new experience that will make it easy for people to

Ejaaz:
collaborate with each other. and ChatGPT.

Ejaaz:
So there's two main key features.

Ejaaz:
Key feature number one is collaborating with your friends and family.

Ejaaz:
So the idea is to bring ChatGPT into the same conversation that you're having

Ejaaz:
in your text messages, in your iMessages, wherever you text with your friends and your family.

Ejaaz:
So some examples of what you can do having ChatGPT in this message context would

Ejaaz:
be things like planning trips.

Ejaaz:
So let's say you're planning a weekend trip and you're talking to friends.

Ejaaz:
You can create a group chat and add ChatGPT to it.

Ejaaz:
And it kind of listens to everything that is said, it can kind of suggest destinations,

Ejaaz:
kind of rule out other options, and stuff like that.

Ejaaz:
But there are also other forms of stuff that you can do with it, Josh.

Ejaaz:
One example is hands on work, which honestly, I could use or benefit a lot from

Ejaaz:
this, which is projects like designing a backyard garden.

Ejaaz:
I have a terrace that is currently unadorned with furniture.

Ejaaz:
And I'm like, how the hell do I figure out what this looks like,

Ejaaz:
I can just take a picture, put it in a group chat with my girlfriend.

Ejaaz:
And I can discuss kind of like what kinds of furniture preferences we like,

Ejaaz:
where we want to put furniture, what kind of size dimensions,

Ejaaz:
where should we order it from? How long is it going to take?

Ejaaz:
Stuff like that. And AI can just kind of like outsource. I can outsource all of that to ChatGPT.

Ejaaz:
And the final part, Josh, I don't know if you have any siblings.

Ejaaz:
I have a sister. We argue all the time about a bunch of decisions that we're

Ejaaz:
going to do for the family.

Ejaaz:
Group decisions. I can now add ChatGPT and prove to her that I'm right about

Ejaaz:
most things here, right?

Ejaaz:
But all jokes aside, I think this is a really cool feature in the sense that

Ejaaz:
it's going to help people in general be way more productive.

Ejaaz:
And the way I kind of look at it is rather than me kind of like having this

Ejaaz:
siloed app that I use that I speak and communicate with different people and

Ejaaz:
then going to ChatGPT to kind of fact check things, this should all be one thing completely.

Ejaaz:
And so I'm all for this. And I think it's a really smart move from OpenAI because

Ejaaz:
they're just going to get so much more data on everyone's behavioral habits,

Ejaaz:
which is going to lead to just better products coming out of them.

Ejaaz:
I mean, there's a reason why you and I keep using OpenAI products.

Ejaaz:
It's because they've tied that bow on the product loop so well.

Ejaaz:
And this is just another example.

Josh:
Oh, what a great growth hack. I really, I really believe that Meta probably

Josh:
envies this strongly because they have the whole community, they have the ecosystem,

Josh:
They just never paired them together.

Josh:
And what an amazing growth hack because so much of the conversation that doesn't

Josh:
happen on social media, it happens in group chats.

Josh:
Group chats are the biggest way that people really communicate.

Josh:
And by integrating AI into that, it's such a powerful unlock.

Josh:
And for people who aren't familiar, previously, if you wanted to share a conversation

Josh:
that you had in chat GPT with a friend, you had to share the whole conversation that you had.

Josh:
And then they could open it up and they can fork it and they could create their

Josh:
own conversation from it. But it wasn't a very collaborative thing.

Josh:
It was very one-sided, read-only.

Josh:
This bakes it into the entire process. So if you have friends who all have ChatGPT,

Josh:
because now there's probably a billion weekly active users.

Josh:
So my guess is at least a couple of them already have it. You just add them to the app.

Josh:
You guys can chat. You have the best assistant in the world.

Josh:
I assume there's going to be a world in which it can collect multiple email

Josh:
addresses, calendars, sync up events that you want to do, check when everyone's

Josh:
free without sharing when everyone's free and create times that everyone can hang out.

Josh:
There's just this hugely powerful unlock that happens as group chats evolve in ChatGPT.

Josh:
And as I'm going through this, I'm like, okay, well, Meta should have done this.

Josh:
Apple should have done this.

Josh:
Google i don't know if google could have done it but those are the top two but

Josh:
it just leaves me like man this was this was low-hanging fruit and again like

Josh:
you said ejaz another product with another viral loop that will get open ai

Josh:
and chat gpt way more users way

Josh:
more stickiness just continuing to pile on the value into this app yeah.

Ejaaz:
I couldn't agree more they're just like that they're hitting repeated home runs

Ejaaz:
out the park um the if you're wondering you know how the hell do you get access

Ejaaz:
to this it's available to you right now free pro uh premium whatever all the

Ejaaz:
plans are, you have access to it.

Ejaaz:
Simply go to any conversation that you've started with ChatGPT and on the top

Ejaaz:
right hand side, you're going to see a people icon with a plus sign.

Ejaaz:
If you tap that, you'll get a shareable link that you can share with up to 20

Ejaaz:
friends or you can invite up to 20 friends to your conversation.

Ejaaz:
And what it does is it creates a copy of that conversation into another version of that conversation.

Ejaaz:
It's like one-to-one, but you have a private version where you've started that

Ejaaz:
conversation, then you have the other one where it has all your friends.

Ejaaz:
And it separates the information between the two.

Ejaaz:
So I can imagine some of the worries that people have is like,

Ejaaz:
well, I have a lot of personal information that I've shared with ChatGPT that

Ejaaz:
I don't want my friends to know about.

Ejaaz:
So is it going to share certain memories that it has about me with my friends?

Ejaaz:
It's complete privacy. These are two separate databases. This is just to help

Ejaaz:
you kind of interact with your friends more and create something cool.

Ejaaz:
Josh, another really cool part about this that I haven't seen too many people

Ejaaz:
talk about is in order to enable this feature,

Ejaaz:
the OpenAI team built some very specific social behaviors for ChatGPT to interact

Ejaaz:
with people in the group chat.

Ejaaz:
So I'll give you an example. So typically, it's been taught to just,

Ejaaz:
you know, kind of keep quiet, don't interrupt too much.

Ejaaz:
It interrupts only when it thinks it can have a useful kind of suggestion,

Ejaaz:
or when it's kind of like prompted.

Ejaaz:
So you can add ChatGPT in any kind of response that you have to your friends

Ejaaz:
to kind of prompt it to say something.

Ejaaz:
But otherwise, it might just kind of like, but in here and there.

Ejaaz:
Another really cool thing, Josh, is that it emoji reacts to people's messages,

Ejaaz:
just like a real person would. So if it kind of like agrees with you,

Ejaaz:
if it agrees with you, but it doesn't necessarily want to be like,

Ejaaz:
hey, Josh, that's a fantastic suggestion, just gives you a thumbs up or might give you a winky face.

Ejaaz:
I don't I don't know, but it kind of interacts like a real human being.

Ejaaz:
You can kind of tweak its personality depending and it evolves with the group conversation.

Ejaaz:
Let's say, you know, it's a group chat with the boys and it's a bit more banterist.

Ejaaz:
It'll kind of adjust to that versus if it's kind of like a more kind of like

Ejaaz:
tame thing with the family, it'll adjust to that. It'll be more respectful.

Ejaaz:
It also has access to your profile and your profile pictures.

Ejaaz:
So let's say you want to say, hey, guys, it's Christmas time.

Ejaaz:
We're planning a big party.

Ejaaz:
I can't wait for this, guys. I'm so excited. Christmas is my favorite holiday ever.

Ejaaz:
You know, you might wake up the next day with the Josh profile picture with

Ejaaz:
a Santa Claus hat or Ejaz wearing an elf costume.

Ejaaz:
You know, it has fun. It has this personable kind of like friend,

Ejaaz:
but it's not really real kind of vibe going about it, which I thought was,

Ejaaz:
again, to tie in the product group, very good at kind of getting people to be

Ejaaz:
at ease with AI and give up their information.

Josh:
Yeah. It's a lot of data too, man. Like the amount of extra personal data you'll

Josh:
collect on and everybody is massive. And you could start to create this network.

Josh:
Like they're starting to build an actual social network where you can get these

Josh:
nodes on a graph. You could see how they relate to each other,

Josh:
who talks to who about what.

Josh:
I'm curious what role that played in the decision to actually make this a reality.

Josh:
Outside of the social flywheel. This is also a data collection flywheel and

Josh:
it puts them in a really good spot.

Josh:
But I have to ask myself the question is, am I going to use this?

Josh:
Ejaz, are you going to use this? Like, is this actually strong enough to get you to leave?

Ejaaz:
Okay. So here is my killer thesis behind this. And I specifically use the word killer here.

Ejaaz:
If this plays out and it is a good enough product, right?

Ejaaz:
I don't see why you wouldn't use this over something like iMessage.

Ejaaz:
Or wherever you text with people. Because in my opinion, if I can speak to my

Ejaaz:
friend, everyone, like you said, you've got almost probably a billion weekly

Ejaaz:
active users of ChatGPT.

Ejaaz:
A bunch of my friends already use it. I would rather have a text chat with them

Ejaaz:
with an AI in there, which can verify links that are posted in there,

Ejaaz:
which has an entire memory and context on our entire conversation.

Ejaaz:
So it can bring up text that someone's mentioned in the past to prove a point

Ejaaz:
or to kind of like share kind of knowledgeable information.

Ejaaz:
And just to be that better kind of like wise man in the group chat,

Ejaaz:
Why wouldn't I use something like that?

Ejaaz:
That sounds like a much better user experience than me typing random text and

Ejaaz:
scrolling and searching for the names that I'm looking for, right?

Ejaaz:
I think it's a much better experience.

Ejaaz:
I think this eventually kills iMessage. Like, why wouldn't Apple be shaking right now?

Josh:
Yeah iMessage it's really so sticky i really love iMessage and we always talk

Josh:
about the moats that apple has one of them being the blue the blue dots when

Josh:
you're texting people the blue bubbles um they have a few moats though that

Josh:
are starting to fall and this is slightly unrelated but i wanted to bring it

Josh:
up this week which is android and google's new rollout of.

Josh:
Airdrop which is weird because when i say airdrop yeah so airdrop like the way

Josh:
that you it's the best feature in the world if you have a file on one of your

Josh:
apple devices and you want to get it to another one of either yours or a friend's

Josh:
Apple device, you can just airdrop it.

Josh:
And using some magic wireless technology, it just shows up on their phone so

Josh:
long as you are in close proximity to them.

Josh:
And this is normally how, like when we hang out, this is how we transfer photos.

Josh:
It's quick, it's high fidelity.

Josh:
It just transfers raw files, huge amounts of data. It is an amazing feature

Josh:
exclusive to Apple. Well, Google just this week,

Josh:
They rolled out airdrop support for iOS, which is really weird because Apple

Josh:
certainly doesn't want that to happen.

Josh:
And it appears as if they reverse engineered Apple's airdrop function,

Josh:
and they figured out how to create a companion that is compatible with the Apple

Josh:
airdrop functionality.

Josh:
And to me, this signals one of two things.

Josh:
One is that Apple's monopoly on these things that keep the ecosystem sticky is starting to fall.

Josh:
First, it was the rich text messaging where you could actually send Android

Josh:
users emojis and you could send photos in true resolution.

Josh:
Now it's an airdrop feature that's getting emulated. If they can figure out

Josh:
how to airdrop, maybe they can figure out how to emulate blue bubbles.

Josh:
And this comes against the backdrop of antiretron lawsuits that have been continuously

Josh:
happening of Apple's kind of restrictive...

Josh:
Ideologies and capabilities when it comes to keeping people locked into their platform.

Josh:
So Apple kind of has two options. One, they either lean into it and they just

Josh:
suck it up and they take that blow.

Josh:
I suspect that's not going to happen too, is that they're probably going to

Josh:
cut this off and say, no, you cannot do this.

Josh:
But in the case they do, well, then they get into antitrust trouble and you

Josh:
don't know what kind of rabbit hole that's going to go down.

Josh:
So there is this monopoly on Apple that's starting to be attacked pretty directly.

Josh:
And I wonder if that's going to further enhance the flywheel,

Josh:
the social effects of people wanting to use alternatives like ChatGPT's group chats or even like XAI.

Josh:
EJS, I don't know if you saw the new X chat feature that rolled out recently. They have chat.

Josh:
They're one button away from rolling rock into those and you could create group

Josh:
chats and like there is going to be a lot of competition.

Josh:
And what we're finding is, EJS, we always talk about this, but AI is going to be everywhere.

Josh:
And if you could build a stack that meets people where they are and integrates

Josh:
AI faster and better than anybody else and get those users locked in early,

Josh:
this is the race that's being played. and JackGPT made a big move this week.

Josh:
It's true. And dropping group chats.

Josh:
So I don't know if I'm going to race to have a group chat, but we should spin

Josh:
one up and try it and play around with it and see how much we really like it.

Ejaaz:
I'm down. I'm going to start one right after this episode. I was just thinking

Ejaaz:
the counter argument would be like, I just don't see Apple sitting around and

Ejaaz:
letting this happen to them, right?

Ejaaz:
They signed that deal recently with Google to get their custom-made Gemini model

Ejaaz:
made specifically for Apple.

Ejaaz:
Into Siri and into their iOS, which means that we're going to have an Apple

Ejaaz:
AI in Siri sometime in 2026.

Ejaaz:
And I can imagine that that's probably going to be available in the text feature as well.

Ejaaz:
So I can't imagine Apple's going to sit around, but they are very much on the back foot right now.

Ejaaz:
And it's not looking great when you have companies like XAI,

Ejaaz:
Grok, and OpenAI with group chats kind of pushing aggressively into the social

Ejaaz:
realm. Like this is the first time, if you think about it,

Ejaaz:
My interaction with ChatGPT has been very one-on-one, right?

Ejaaz:
It's kind of very siloed.

Ejaaz:
And now they're kind of tapping into the social graph where not only am I just

Ejaaz:
kind of using ChatGPT to get information, and it does it in a really reliable way.

Ejaaz:
I would say I spent about 40% of my internet browsing time on ChatGPT.

Ejaaz:
Now it's tapping into my social arc, Josh.

Ejaaz:
Now it's tapping into personal information. Now it's tapping into my leisure and my joy.

Ejaaz:
It's going to know about my jokes that I make. It might make me laugh. I don't know.

Ejaaz:
It might react like, you know, with a smiley emoji to my joke and I might feel good about it.

Ejaaz:
So it's a really interesting kind of realm and it's so weird to think about.

Ejaaz:
I don't know what it's going to look like. Meta is definitely fuming.

Ejaaz:
Meta is definitely angry that they didn't do something like this.

Josh:
Well, it seems like everybody's fuming. Everyone just like, everyone's competing.

Josh:
It's so hyper competitive. Everyone wants to win.

Josh:
Apple is one good update away from breaking this mold and just keeping us locked in.

Josh:
So while Apple always moves the slowest and normally the best,

Josh:
they are going to need to have some urgency before they really just lose this

Josh:
moat. So I'm hopeful for some new updates.

Josh:
This is not the end of the group chat.

Josh:
This may be the beginning of the AI group chat, but this is certainly only step

Josh:
one in the journey. But that's it.

Josh:
That is two cool tools that released this week that are really, really cool.

Josh:
Like we're getting some good stuff fairly quickly.

Josh:
I would encourage everyone to try them out. Let us know what you think.

Josh:
In particular, I want your Nano Banana Pro prompts.

Josh:
I want to know the cool prompts that you're using to make these fun types of

Josh:
images, whether it be, you know, walking down the aisle with someone or just

Josh:
a really cool graphic or whatever.

Josh:
Because again, it's just creativity constraints. So if you could come up with

Josh:
a good prompt, let us know, share it, share it with your friends,

Josh:
just like you're hopefully going to share this episode with them.

Josh:
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Josh:
So yeah, that's it. That's all we got. Go try them out, test it out,

Josh:
share with your friends.

Josh:
Don't forget to like, comment, subscribe, all the great new stuff and we will

Josh:
see you guys on the next episode see you guys for watching peace.