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Josh:
So remember all those big billion dollar paychecks multi-billion

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dollar paychecks that we've been talking about zuck issuing to these top

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tier ai engineers ejaz well the good news and the bad news is that we know where

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the money's been going now because the meta team has released their first major

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product and it's a little freaking scary it's a little dystopian we're going

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to get into exactly what it is how it all works but before that there is a second

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character in this story that is taking a seemingly opposite approach.

Josh:
And that's OpenAI, who has dedicated all of their engineering talent towards

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a new feature called Pulse.

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Now, Pulse proactively assumes what you are going to want and delivers you value

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and thinks for you literally overnight in order to make your life better.

Josh:
So what we're seeing here, as these companies release more features,

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is that they're actually taking two very separate approaches that are seemingly

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one kind of optimistic, one a little more dystopian than each other.

Josh:
EJS, can you first walk us through the meta news, what they announced,

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how it works, what they've been up to with all of this multi multi multi multi

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billion dollars worth of talent.

Ejaaz:
Okay so the product is appropriately

Ejaaz:
called vibes which implies

Ejaaz:
that it's something uh good that's gonna kind of like comfort you maybe even

Ejaaz:
sedate you josh and i use that term very specifically because they've basically

Ejaaz:
created ai tiktok ai ig reels um in the words of alexander wang the head of

Ejaaz:
Meta's super intelligence lab.

Ejaaz:
He goes, excited to share Vibes, a new feed in the Meta AI app for short form AI generated videos.

Ejaaz:
And rather than speak about what it is, I'm going to show you a few videos.

Ejaaz:
You've got an astronaut riding a bike here. You've got a bear and a dinosaur

Ejaaz:
fighting underwater. You've got a cat announcing the news. You've got people running on clouds.

Ejaaz:
And before I start shitting on this, Josh, I'm going to say that it's actually

Ejaaz:
really high quality um the graphics the kind of way that you can seamlessly

Ejaaz:
edit and remix a bunch of these different contents and videos it's actually pretty cool but i don't

Ejaaz:
really agree with the thesis which is basically

Ejaaz:
how can i get a bunch of people addicted to watching short form content as if

Ejaaz:
they weren't already addicted as well already you can now basically take any

Ejaaz:
kind of idea that you might have spend a few seconds running out a prompt and

Ejaaz:
create a new video that just endlessly loops addicting you to watch it over

Ejaaz:
and over again can you walk us through

Josh:
Like exactly how this works is is it the user that's kind of prompting a model

Josh:
and then posting it to a separate timeline is that kind of what this is So maybe

Josh:
like an Instagram-Facebook hybrid, but purely AI-generated? Yeah.

Ejaaz:
So if you imagine you're on your Instagram app and you click add a post or create

Ejaaz:
a post, you will now see an option to create an AI-generated video.

Ejaaz:
And when you tap that, it'll come up with a little prompt box,

Ejaaz:
similar to if you've ever interacted with ChatGPT or even typed anything in Google.

Ejaaz:
And you can just describe what you want to see in a video.

Ejaaz:
So it could be, in this case, a cow wearing sunglasses mooing at you enthusiastically,

Ejaaz:
or it could be a bird flying underwater. It could be pretty much anything you want to make up.

Josh:
Okay, this was shocking when I saw this.

Josh:
I guess it would be an understatement, it was my perception.

Josh:
But before we get into my perception, your perception, because I'm curious what

Josh:
you think, Ejaz, what did the public think of this? How did they take this news?

Ejaaz:
Okay so there are two camps uh

Ejaaz:
one is louder than the other so camp

Ejaaz:
number one unsurprising uh is summarized

Ejaaz:
by lindy man over here always a good reminder

Ejaaz:
that the people making these products are not using them

Ejaaz:
zuck is spending his time doing mma training running

Ejaaz:
a business reading but why buying hawaiian

Ejaaz:
real estate and talking to people this is meant for

Ejaaz:
you not him he sells you plastic and

Ejaaz:
rubber so he can buy wood and stone the point that this

Ejaaz:
man is making is basically he's selling you a

Ejaaz:
product that is going to waste your hours waste your

Ejaaz:
time suck your attention up into a vacuum

Ejaaz:
that pays betters bills pays their advertisers out

Ejaaz:
whilst you eventually are the product

Ejaaz:
now the other camp is displayed

Ejaaz:
by Arthur Rock over here where he goes not surprised

Ejaaz:
by the overwhelming d-cell takes on this it

Ejaaz:
is the same myopic snobbery of inventions past

Ejaaz:
david hockney called the photograph looking at the world from the point of view

Ejaaz:
of a paralyzed cyclops basically this person is saying you guys are being extremely

Ejaaz:
short-sighted this is the new innovation that everyone's been hoping for and

Ejaaz:
it'll end up being a very productive thing

Ejaaz:
Before I want you to retaliate to this, Josh, I can see his point of view.

Ejaaz:
I can see his point of view. If this is a tool that is used for good,

Ejaaz:
imagine being able to educate on a very abstract concept that is so hard to

Ejaaz:
communicate over words or just by speaking into a microphone, much that we do.

Ejaaz:
If there was a way that we could visually kind of illustrate a complex topic

Ejaaz:
and teach many others, I could see that being really productive.

Ejaaz:
But I don't think that that's what it's going to be used for the majority.

Ejaaz:
I think it's going to be used for mass consumption. Whatever gets you views, whatever gets you paid.

Ejaaz:
Josh, I want to pass the ball to you to give the first opinionated take on this, please.

Josh:
Okay. So like I said, like we've been saying for months, they have spent an

Josh:
astronomical amount of money on hiring talent.

Josh:
They have extracted the best engineers in the world.

Ejaaz:
$23 billion, which includes a $15 billion investment to acquire Alexander Wang,

Ejaaz:
the guy that heads up this product.

Josh:
They spent $15 billion for the guy that just posted that tweet.

Josh:
So that's the context there. They have spent an ungodly amount of money designing

Josh:
and developing this team, which you would hope that they are working to design

Josh:
this really impressive software.

Josh:
And before I get into the actual commentary, I do want to provide a little context

Josh:
to the people who kind of aren't aware, or this was something I was thinking

Josh:
about as I was reading the news, is that when you think about Meta and previously Facebook,

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the Facebook team spent a lot of years and a lot of talent on developing a way to better serve ads.

Josh:
And that resulted in a very addicted algorithm. them.

Josh:
So they spent God knows how many engineers, millions of hours,

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top talent out of universities.

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They sucked them in. They paid them with a lot of incentives and these wonderful

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offices that they get to work in, free lunches.

Josh:
And they said, hey, your job is to figure out how to create a better timeline

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to get people more hooked to sell better ads.

Josh:
And that is a little bit of a dystopian way of seeing things.

Josh:
So when I heard that they were spending all this money to hire all this talent,

Josh:
this new AI initiative for a new company named Meta, I was like,

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okay, we got a chance here. and the very first product they announce is.

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How to get people addicted to a timeline for the AI age, where it is AI version

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of this timeline, except it's generated completely through an AI model instead of human generated.

Josh:
And the scary thing for me is that AI generated content, EJ,

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as we've talked about this in the past,

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it can get very good very quickly, where if you have access to a front facing

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camera on someone's smartphone, and it's watching your eyes dilate as you watch

Josh:
more interesting videos or lower and it detects every retention rate,

Josh:
it can slowly iterate over time.

Josh:
And with TikTok, when you're scrolling through these timelines, there's a a

Josh:
fixed set of content that you can get through so maybe the

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algorithm is choosing between five top videos that are interesting to

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you with an ai generated timeline there

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is no limit to the amount of videos

Josh:
it's very open-ended so that n number that they could choose from becomes infinite which

Josh:
means you can iterate over time until it becomes maximally addicting

Josh:
for the specific user and generate content on

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the fly so that is my dystopian approach it is very discouraging to

Josh:
see this like i understand where they're coming from but

Josh:
like my god as the first product to offer without any

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good explanation like i'd love to hear from

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them why i think they really just drop this

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and like hey here's this thing we've been working on here's our first cool project um

Josh:
without explaining the the vision and the why behind it and i think that's equally

Josh:
as important because sure this is great technology it's nothing novel we've

Josh:
seen vo3 make great videos way better than these so it's not like this is novel

Josh:
technology they've just applied a timeline to it for the first time um but i'm

Josh:
curious if you agree or disagree just what are your thoughts on,

Josh:
where do you stand with this okay.

Ejaaz:
So i'm conflicted i agree with a lot of what you just said but i want to point

Ejaaz:
a few things out i want to argue with you a bit josh feel free to jump in whenever okay um

Ejaaz:
Number one, I think we might be sitting on our own ethical horses right now.

Ejaaz:
Do we apply the same kind of critique

Ejaaz:
to TikTok as much or social media in general? I'm not sure that we do.

Ejaaz:
I think that because you and I are so invested in AI and we want to see it kind

Ejaaz:
of change the world, we expect that anyone,

Ejaaz:
particularly someone that's spending hundreds of billions of dollars on compute

Ejaaz:
to scale the best AI models in the world to use it for good or whatever we define as good.

Ejaaz:
I don't think Zuck's ever explicitly stated that he was going to do that, right?

Ejaaz:
He never claimed that he wanted to build the best AI model to make you a genius.

Ejaaz:
He said Facebook or Meta specifically's mission and goal has always been to

Ejaaz:
bring people together, to create a better social environment,

Ejaaz:
to help them connect, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. and he said that Meta's

Ejaaz:
chops have been cut in building consumer apps.

Ejaaz:
That's their bread and butter. He said that on the Doha Cash interview that

Ejaaz:
he was on a couple of weeks back, right?

Ejaaz:
And he's kind of delivering on that promise, I guess. And maybe we just don't

Ejaaz:
like how it's materialized.

Ejaaz:
I agree with you that he should have sold the vision a bit more because Zuck

Ejaaz:
has never explicitly come out and said, hey, we want to increase eyeballs on our app.

Ejaaz:
We need to increase shareholder value. And therefore, that's what we're trying

Ejaaz:
to do here. he's always sold a more like, we're going to connect people online

Ejaaz:
and that's going to bring us closer together.

Ejaaz:
I want to hear what his pitch is.

Ejaaz:
I'm kind of curious to hear from him versus Alexander Wang.

Ejaaz:
The other thing that I'll say is I do think they're going to spin this from

Ejaaz:
an educational point of view as well.

Ejaaz:
I think they're going to use examples of people using this to kind of explain

Ejaaz:
really complex topics, to illustrate new inventions or whatever that might be,

Ejaaz:
or even to ideate like kind of new film concepts or video concepts to entertain.

Ejaaz:
And I don't think net net, that's going to really result in too much of a bad thing.

Ejaaz:
But I think you and I have been primed on TikTok too much. The other thing that is in your camp, Josh,

Ejaaz:
is I think Zuck has seen a growing trend of Gen Z people watching absolute slop,

Ejaaz:
not AI slop, just slop on TikTok.

Ejaaz:
If you watch what some of the kids are digesting, like what was that skibbity

Ejaaz:
toilet trend that was going nuts that basically all the kids could talk about

Ejaaz:
or baby shark and all that kind of stuff.

Ejaaz:
I think he's seen that and he knows that there are a bunch of kids that are

Ejaaz:
entering the workforce or whatever that like this kind of stuff and he's just

Ejaaz:
engineering a product that they're going to get hooked on and I'm very bearish on that.

Josh:
Very well could be. I guess we'll leave it at that and we'll see.

Josh:
I'm very much looking forward to the messaging that they're going to have around

Josh:
this going forward and how they plan to use the technology.

Josh:
But maybe you're right. Maybe we're just being a little too optimistic on our

Josh:
expectations for Meta and the team.

Ejaaz:
But this isn't unlike Meta or Zuck's nature, right?

Ejaaz:
Like literally last week, they

Ejaaz:
released a new AI dating app with two features that will help you find

Ejaaz:
the love of your life, or, you know, just a girlfriend or a boyfriend or whoever

Ejaaz:
you want to hang out with.

Ejaaz:
And I'm referencing, this post summarizes actually very well,

Ejaaz:
that the new AI assistant lets you search for a Brooklyn tech bro who would

Ejaaz:
go to EDM concerts with me.

Ejaaz:
And this one hit pretty close to home because, you know, we live in Brooklyn

Ejaaz:
and it very much fulfills the stereotype here.

Ejaaz:
So the point I'm making is Zuck and Meta haven't really kind of blindsided us

Ejaaz:
or surprised us. They've kind of been making moves like this all along.

Ejaaz:
And maybe this is the next step of a path that they just want to go down.

Josh:
Yeah, I guess. Well, time will tell. I'm looking forward to future messaging

Josh:
from $15 billion Alex Wang.

Josh:
Hopefully he has something a little more inspiring to share with us.

Josh:
But on the inspiring front, on the optimistic front, on the hopeful front,

Josh:
we have OpenAI Ejaz, who is now doing something proactive.

Josh:
I think this is the first time where an AI is actually thinking on behalf of

Josh:
you without being prompted. Can you explain to us what's going on with this new pulse feature.

Ejaaz:
Okay what if i told you josh that the episode that we're filming tomorrow the

Ejaaz:
ai roundup was actually formed by open ai's latest product that they released a few days ago that'd

Josh:
Be pretty stoked because uh that would save us a lot of time in preparation yep.

Ejaaz:
I am talking about open ai pulse and in sam's words pulse works for you overnight

Ejaaz:
and keeps thinking about your interests, your connected data,

Ejaaz:
your recent chats, and more.

Ejaaz:
Every morning, you get a custom-generated set of stuff you might be interested in.

Ejaaz:
It performs well if you tell ChatGPT more about what's important to you.

Ejaaz:
In regular chat, you could mention, I'd like to go visit Bora Bora someday,

Ejaaz:
or my kid is six months old and I'm interested in developmental milestones.

Ejaaz:
And in the future, you might get useful updates. And to kind of summarize what

Ejaaz:
this product does, Josh, it's kind of a digital you.

Ejaaz:
Thinks and gets better as you sleep, literally.

Ejaaz:
So whilst you and I are asleep, it's thinking about what would Josh want to

Ejaaz:
hear about tomorrow morning?

Ejaaz:
What was the task Josh was trying to figure out at 12 p.m.

Ejaaz:
Today that he didn't end up figuring out? How can I help him achieve that goal

Ejaaz:
faster and quicker than his deadline in a week's time?

Ejaaz:
It's meant to be a digital version of you that's meant to help and aid you,

Ejaaz:
very much like a personalized AI that you and I have been so,

Ejaaz:
so excited about kind of using and interacting with.

Ejaaz:
This was a feature that they released for pro users.

Ejaaz:
And in the words of Fiji Simo, the CEO of product, she goes,

Ejaaz:
AI should do more than just answer questions.

Ejaaz:
It should anticipate your needs and help reach your goals.

Ejaaz:
And I kind of like this idea of instead of pitching you an AI agent that can

Ejaaz:
solve all your problems,

Ejaaz:
they're taking the step before that, which is let me help understand what you're

Ejaaz:
trying to achieve and help you in small ways, which is give you up the information

Ejaaz:
that you didn't even know you needed to help reach your goals.

Josh:
This is super exciting. This is, it feels like a very natural extension to OpenAI's memory feature.

Josh:
I mean, if you remember, they were the first ones, I believe,

Josh:
to roll out memory and it became kind of the moat that they had.

Josh:
And I love that this is an attempt to build on top of the moat.

Josh:
And I also love that that came from Fiji, who is the CEO of product of OpenAI, like the a semi-CEO.

Josh:
But it's cool that they're actually, they're shipping these really cool features

Josh:
that are now building on top of that mode that they've created.

Josh:
And again, I mean, I use ChatGPT mostly because of that memory mode.

Josh:
I think it's really powerful. It makes a big deal. And I would love,

Josh:
for AI to be proactive. And by all means, I very much think this is the first

Josh:
time an AI is doing this, where it is actually ingesting your memory,

Josh:
sitting on it, thinking about it.

Josh:
They are applying the absolute best models they have overnight when you are

Josh:
not online, and then surfacing the most helpful things based on their absolute

Josh:
best models the following morning.

Josh:
And that to me seems really helpful.

Josh:
Like, okay, maybe it's in a way, it's like, a lot of times someone will tell

Josh:
you like, oh, just go sleep on it. You'll come to an answer in the morning.

Josh:
AI is very much. It's sleeping on it. It's sleeping on it for you,

Josh:
on your behalf. And it is surfacing the best answer. So to me,

Josh:
this is a really cool feature. I'm a big fan.

Ejaaz:
Do you want to know something cool, Josh? So I have a pro subscription and I've

Ejaaz:
been using it in the four days since it's been released.

Josh:
What has it been like? What do you get?

Ejaaz:
It started off kind of like a newsletter, your own personalized newsletter on

Ejaaz:
your life, Josh, on all your interests that you wanted to hear about.

Ejaaz:
And the newsletter would tell me things that happened

Ejaaz:
over the last couple of days okay this is the this

Ejaaz:
is the progress i'm really excited to tell you about this okay so step one is

Ejaaz:
newsletter debrief on the things that have happened the

Ejaaz:
last few days it that's cool but nothing super

Ejaaz:
novel day two it started

Ejaaz:
telling me those things that happened over the last couple of days but also

Ejaaz:
started giving me ideas of what could happen in the future it was like okay

Ejaaz:
oh have you ever thought about like you know maybe this AI agent could end up

Ejaaz:
actually feasibly doing this because of this advancement that NVIDIA did with this chip.

Ejaaz:
And I'm like, huh, you know what? I never really thought about that.

Ejaaz:
That's actually really interesting.

Ejaaz:
And then yesterday, Josh, the prompt that it gave me was a list of things that

Ejaaz:
was the latest news in AI.

Ejaaz:
And it said, by the way, have you considered talking about this angle when you

Ejaaz:
film the episode on Wednesday? Yeah.

Ejaaz:
And I was like, how, wait, how do you know I'm filming an episode on Wednesday?

Ejaaz:
And then I realized I'd had a separate conversation with ChatGPT earlier on

Ejaaz:
that day, trying to brainstorm ideas of how I would frame an argument.

Ejaaz:
And it had brought in a new news topic that had broke that morning and synthesized

Ejaaz:
it with that goal that I was going to film on Wednesday.

Ejaaz:
And it was said, by the way, you should include this in that and frame it this way.

Ejaaz:
So it's already kind of getting me to think ahead of my life in ways that I

Ejaaz:
actually hadn't considered. or maybe I would only think about on that day.

Ejaaz:
So it's kind of like helping my future self in a weird way.

Josh:
That is very cool. And it seems like you are not alone in your happy sentiment

Josh:
around it because Kevin, I mean, we have some public commentary.

Josh:
People also seem to be pretty stoked that this is happening, right?

Ejaaz:
Yeah, so Kevin Rose has a tweet here where he goes, ChatGPT Pulse is one of

Ejaaz:
the most impactful features OpenAI has released.

Ejaaz:
It's an agent that continuously researches on your behalf, building on topics

Ejaaz:
from your recent conversations. i'm having a hard time wrapping my head around

Ejaaz:
this paradigm because it's truly unlike anything we've seen before and i guess

Ejaaz:
that i kind of resonate with

Josh:
That so i guess in the search to figure out how this works uh we

Josh:
stumbled upon this post by nathan dashes and he

Josh:
just said yeah just had an interesting experience with gpt plus last night

Josh:
i asked gpt a question and it gave me an answer that was

Josh:
just so so this morning the first card impulse was three

Josh:
times better to the same question um and

Josh:
then you could see there's a response from adam fry who is the lead of product

Josh:
at open ai and he said well overnight we use our best

Josh:
models and also try to think the broader intent

Josh:
of the question you ask to see if chat gpt can

Josh:
be even more helpful so what's really cool is what they're doing is i just i

Josh:
also have to wonder if they're using this as a test bed for new models without

Josh:
telling you they said they're absolute best models i wonder if that's a teaser

Josh:
i don't know i'm just speculating so i wonder if this this creates this new

Josh:
meta of engaging with the ai where you can actually prompt which topics to think about overnight.

Josh:
And if you don't feel satisfied with the answer, maybe you could just subtly

Josh:
hint it to request to think harder on it overnight.

Ejaaz:
Yeah, I think you kind of nailed it, Josh. So there's this paragraph in Fiji's

Ejaaz:
announcement post where she goes, our reasoning models, and she's referring

Ejaaz:
to OpenAI's latest models,

Ejaaz:
were built to spend more time thinking before they answer, allowing them to

Ejaaz:
work through complex tasks in science, coding, math at near PhD level.

Ejaaz:
And this is something you and I have spoken about, Josh.

Ejaaz:
We keep talking about these models breaking benchmarks and being so, so smart.

Ejaaz:
But most of our listeners, including you and I, don't really get to see the

Ejaaz:
fruits of this labor, right?

Ejaaz:
We're like, okay, we're not doing PhD level coding. So what? Who cares?

Ejaaz:
And Fiji goes, Pulse takes that intelligence and applies it proactively to your

Ejaaz:
personal everyday life helping you make progress

Ejaaz:
in the things that matter even when you don't think so it's almost

Ejaaz:
as if they're saying these models were already available and

Ejaaz:
intelligent and we're surfacing this feature this new

Ejaaz:
product for you so that you can see it happen to you in real time literally

Ejaaz:
change the way you work and interact with ai over time and i just want to give

Ejaaz:
my quick take an opinion on this because we just covered like the doom of vision

Ejaaz:
of like meta's uh scrolling a TikTok app, and then we have suddenly this.

Ejaaz:
This is way more optimistic. I can see myself using this every day and actually

Ejaaz:
growing to really depend and love it.

Ejaaz:
Obviously, the Duma side of that is like, if I'm dependent on this and OpenAI

Ejaaz:
has all my data, could they use that for different things?

Ejaaz:
But the optimistic side is, do I care if it's making me more of a productive human being?

Ejaaz:
If I can do 10x more things than I could originally do, if it can anticipate

Ejaaz:
problems before they even happen to me, that's something that I'm willing not

Ejaaz:
only to pay 200 bucks for, but maybe even a thousand bucks for if it ends up doing that, right?

Ejaaz:
And then the stark contrast to point out the obvious is this seems to be a product

Ejaaz:
that is sucking your attention to make you more productive, to make you smarter.

Ejaaz:
Whereas Meta's thing seems to be like, you know, let me help you consume a bunch

Ejaaz:
of video content and waste your time on that kind of stuff.

Ejaaz:
That's the obvious. Do you have the same kind of take, Josh, or anything different?

Josh:
Yeah, what you said reminded me of this war that I've been at with all of the

Josh:
large model companies, which is against the singular text box.

Josh:
Like the fact that you're presented with the world's knowledge and a single

Josh:
text box to engage with it really drives me crazy.

Josh:
Frustration to no end and what i love about

Josh:
the open ai approach is well it's just it's proactive it

Josh:
serves you things that you wouldn't necessarily require

Josh:
that amount of knowledge for but it takes the large knowledge that's unused and

Josh:
it applies it to something that's valuable for you and it serves it to you and i think

Josh:
that's great and i mean meta meta just has

Josh:
this this kind of like strange slightly less

Josh:
inspiring approach and sure ai video it's not

Josh:
that great now it's going to get fantastic i'm sure ai video

Josh:
will i mean eventually become more interesting than

Josh:
tiktok and it will become a very interesting valuable

Josh:
platform it's just on a personal note leaves

Josh:
me uninspired to see all this talent going towards that instead of something

Josh:
like open ai so for today for this moment in time i am a little upset with meta

Josh:
pretty happy with open ai we'll see how this changes over time but two very

Josh:
interesting noteworthy product releases that had happened just very recently here?

Ejaaz:
I think it is a tale of two different cities.

Ejaaz:
Facebook and Meta is doing its own thing. It is a social media platform.

Ejaaz:
They never claim to change the world and make you the most intelligent person

Ejaaz:
ever. They're there to kind of connect people.

Ejaaz:
And I'm ironically lacking the argument for connection with their new product.

Ejaaz:
Addiction, I get. Connection, less so. And with the OpenAI product,

Ejaaz:
Sam has always kind of pitched this vision of AGI, super intelligence,

Ejaaz:
like we're going to make you smarter and it's going to make you way more productive

Ejaaz:
and humans are going to prosper, UBI, all this kind of stuff.

Ejaaz:
And I can see this as a step towards that.

Ejaaz:
The thing that I'm most excited about in the OpenAI stuff is this seems like

Ejaaz:
the premeditated step before launching your own personal agent that can do way

Ejaaz:
more things than just talk to you. It can buy stuff for you and build stuff for you.

Ejaaz:
And, you know, they release something this morning um that will allow you to

Ejaaz:
like pay or buy uh anything which anyway is super cool

Ejaaz:
Josh, we have a really exciting episode that we're filming on Thursday,

Ejaaz:
which is with the guys that built this product, which built OpenAI Pulse. The Pulse product.

Josh:
The one that we like today.

Ejaaz:
The Pulse, the optimistic outlook. I'm highlighting the sentence.

Josh:
Talking to the optimist.

Ejaaz:
Yeah, I'm highlighting the end of Sam's announcement post where he goes,

Ejaaz:
huge congrats to Christina and Samir and the team for building this.

Ejaaz:
Christina and Samir are coming on our show on Thursday. We are recording that

Ejaaz:
episode and we're going to dig deep into AI personalization and agents.

Ejaaz:
And we cannot wait to show this to you guys.

Ejaaz:
But that comes to the end of our episode. Unless Josh, you have any other hot takes?

Josh:
That's everything. So yeah, if you guys are excited about the Christina and

Josh:
Samir episode, please tune in.

Josh:
That is like pretty huge for us to actually talk to the people who are responsible

Josh:
for creating the news that we were discussing on the show. Super exciting.

Josh:
One task for you in the comment section is to share which side you are on.

Josh:
Are we being delusional?

Josh:
Is it the pessimists that are correct? Is it the people who are building AI

Josh:
Slap? Are you team meta? Are you team open AI today?

Josh:
It's all right. You're allowed to change your opinion next week,

Josh:
but for today, where do you stand?

Josh:
And as always, if you enjoyed, please share it with a friend who would also

Josh:
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Josh:
We appreciate your support always. Don't forget to like, subscribe, all the good things.

Josh:
And we will see you again in the next one for a roundup of all of the other

Josh:
stuff that we didn't get to talk about today.

Josh:
So stay tuned. We have a lot coming up and we will talk to you all in the next one.