Limitless Podcast

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Google just wrapped up their star-studded presentation announcing all of their

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new devices including their new phone and their AI strategy that they're planning

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to go forward with for the rest of the year.

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As I'm watching this episode or as I'm watching this unveiling event I

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could not help but think this was everything Apple promised

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me a full year ago that they didn't deliver on

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and it makes me a little frustrated because these features are amazing and

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we're getting into all of them we'll talk about everything that was announced today but there's

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things that i actually really want in my phone it turns your pixel or your smartphone

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whatever phone you have into a proactive assistant so now your phone pulls the

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right info before you ask it speaks other languages in your own voice on phone

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calls it coaches you to take photos in real time and turn you into a photographer

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gives you a fitness coach adapts to your sleep and travel,

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there's so many amazing features they unveiled and as i'm watching this i can't

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help but think this is everything i was promised but didn't get from apple so

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you just you just finished watching this. What are your first impressions?

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What do you think after seeing this presentation from Google?

Ejaaz:
Google just killed Apple at their game, consumer mobile devices.

Ejaaz:
I watched this stream and I consistently just had this one term keep popping

Ejaaz:
up in my head, PPAI, Practical Personalized AI. Trademarked, I just came up with that.

Ejaaz:
And what I mean by this is the theme of Google's new phone is very much not

Ejaaz:
just a new hardware device, but something that's deeply ingrained with AI at the consumer level.

Ejaaz:
You've heard this term many times before, personalized AI, you know,

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something that intuitively understands what you want, that predicts what you're

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going to do, that serves you up information before you even think of it, right?

Ejaaz:
But we've never really seen this materialize very well.

Ejaaz:
But that's what Google's going after. And I have to say, Josh,

Ejaaz:
They're doing it in a really functional way.

Ejaaz:
Now, you mentioned earlier on that there's a bunch of features that you would use.

Ejaaz:
I think that's the sense that I got as well. The features that they all listed,

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and I'm about to jump into some of my favorites,

Ejaaz:
are things that I feel hundreds of millions

Ejaaz:
of people specifically those that use android devices

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that run google software are going to use

Ejaaz:
um i'll give you an example there was this one thing called

Ejaaz:
um magic magic cue or magical cue

Ejaaz:
i think it was magic cue magic cue imagine this when you are on text using an

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apple iphone you can typically get something known as predictive text right

Ejaaz:
it kind of like predicts certain words that you might say most of the time it's

Ejaaz:
wrong and I think like 15% of my friends actually use it

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Google's done exactly this, but it's for every single app that you might use

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on Google, which is just insane, right?

Ejaaz:
So it doesn't just predict what to respond to in a text.

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It grathers all the context that is needed for that conversation itself.

Ejaaz:
So in one of the examples, Jimmy Fallon, who is actually the host of this event,

Ejaaz:
was scrolling through his phone, through his emails, and he picks out an email

Ejaaz:
that he receives from a guy called Rick.

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And Rick is asking him a question saying, dude, where are we going out tonight?

Ejaaz:
Like they obviously made plans before, they were having a little chat somewhere

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else, presumably on text and Jimmy hadn't responded.

Ejaaz:
And as you can see on Jimmy's phone here, if you look down to the bottom right,

Ejaaz:
for those who are watching, there's

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a tiny bubble that has the restaurant suggestion already pre-prepared.

Ejaaz:
Now, Apple iPhone predictive text doesn't know this, would never know this.

Ejaaz:
It doesn't read your emails. It doesn't read your calendar. it has no idea.

Ejaaz:
But this magic cue is basically Google's Gemini AI embedded across your entire

Ejaaz:
phone, which I just thought was super cool.

Ejaaz:
Later on in this live demo, they then show a follow-up response from Rick,

Ejaaz:
who says, are you sure it's this restaurant? Can you like confirm with them somehow?

Ejaaz:
And Jimmy goes back on his like email, he's reading this, and then suddenly

Ejaaz:
a reply pops up on his phone, which has the number of the restaurant.

Ejaaz:
So without doing anything, he just taps the number and it starts calling the restaurant.

Ejaaz:
And Josh, do you know when you call someone on your iPhone? I know you have

Ejaaz:
an iPhone, I have an iPhone. It just shows like a bunch of buttons, right?

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Loudspeaker mode, switch the callers or whatever. It doesn't really show you

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something functional, right?

Ejaaz:
In this live demo, when he tapped the phone number to call the restaurant,

Ejaaz:
it had popped up his open table reservation on the phone screen as it was ringing.

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And to someone like me that uses my phone pretty incessantly,

Ejaaz:
that calls a lot of people day in, day out, that minor change doesn't seem so

Ejaaz:
minor when it's so fluidly integrated into my user experience.

Ejaaz:
I just thought this was like one of my favorite feature updates.

Josh:
Yeah, this is cool. And like, why is this cool? Why does this matter?

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It's because this is the only private tech stack that actually does this promise.

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So in the case of the iPhone, their promise was, hey, we're going to we have

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this new chip. It's built just for Apple intelligence.

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We are going to deliver an experience that pulls all of your private data on

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your phone and gets aggregated in the small model that runs locally on the device.

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And then it could serve you these suggestions, just like we're seeing Google do right now.

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The problem is that doesn't exist. And our only options, like we've discussed

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in previous episodes, are going to the cloud to offload all of our data to give to somebody else.

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So in this particular example I'm thinking about, I'm thinking about ChatGPT and OpenAI.

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When I want to connect my Google Calendar and my Gmail, which are two things

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I use a lot, well, now it just goes all to OpenAI servers. And they have full

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access to all of my information.

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And I only get to integrate my Gmail and my calendar.

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So if there are any other applications that give helpful context.

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OpenAI just can't see that. It doesn't have access to the rest of the stuff on my phone.

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The cool thing about Google is it runs all of this locally on your device,

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fully synchronously across all of the applications you have.

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This was the promise Apple made. This is the promise that the Apple failed on.

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And there are a few cool technical things that happened to enable this, which is a new chip.

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It's called the Tensor G5 chip. This is like the cool new chip that goes into

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this phone. And basically what it is, is three nanometer processor,

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super, super tiny, really fast.

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And it's just really fast and beefy. and it enables 20 fully on-device AI features

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at launch, which means super low latency. You don't have to ping a server and

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tons of privacy because you don't have to ping a server.

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So all of this gets done locally on device. It's all really fast.

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It all just kind of works the way that we were promised again,

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but doesn't as an iPhone user. Clearly, I'm very frustrated. Good for you, Google.

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This was not the only cool new AI feature they showed. My favorite.

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I use my phone as a camera a lot.

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I love photography. I love taking photos. they had some fantastic new photo

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features for the camera that I want to get into the first one.

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Being editing by text. So this was a really cool example.

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So what we're seeing here is podcaster Alex Cooper. She took a video with Jimmy

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Fallon backstage and it was kind of a crappy photo.

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It didn't look good. And in fact, this is what most of my photos look like when I take them.

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They're just, they're not that great. A lot of the magic is in post-production

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and editing the photo, but it takes a lot of technical skill.

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And when I want to teach my friends how to edit a photo, it just doesn't go very well.

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So what she's doing in this example is she's saying, hey, I just want you to

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fix the lighting and make the image just kind of look a little more aligned instead of crooked.

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And you see the before and after on the screen right here. It's pretty incredible.

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This is exactly what I would do as a professional editor that would take me

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a couple minutes to do in Adobe Lightroom.

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And it's just done by typing into your photos app, what you want to change, and then it changes it.

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And to me, that's magic because it simplifies the process, the hardest process

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about photography, which is the actual editing of your crappy photos.

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Most people, listen, this is the truth.

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You don't always take the best photos out of the camera. You need to edit them.

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Now anybody could edit them. And this is all powered by AI locally on device.

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This was cool. This was like a really exciting feature for me. Okay, okay, okay.

Ejaaz:
So I completely agree with you. And I have a sister that is just as obsessed

Ejaaz:
as you, Josh, with taking pictures and like getting the right kind of like filter and gradient.

Ejaaz:
I showed this to her. Like I sent this like a clip of this to her like five minutes ago.

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And she was just like, holy shit, this is going to change my life.

Ejaaz:
I don't need to spend hours editing my pics anymore.

Ejaaz:
That's good for you. But what about me?

Ejaaz:
What about me that has no directive sense in terms of taking photos,

Ejaaz:
that has a girlfriend that's like, you know, trying to film content for like all her food stuff?

Ejaaz:
I am going to be honest with you, Josh, I'm like a low IQ caveman when it comes to this stuff.

Ejaaz:
But they launched a feature that would help me with doing that.

Ejaaz:
It's something called camera assist. And we're actually seeing this on the video right now where...

Ejaaz:
Alex Cooper is basically trying to get a good shot of Jimmy Fallon,

Ejaaz:
who is seated on a blue cow right now.

Ejaaz:
And what you can see in the live demo is that the AI has created a bunch of

Ejaaz:
example shots from her screen recording that she's having right now,

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like before she captures an image,

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prompting her of what kind of angle she can take for the shot of Jimmy.

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So it's talking to her in real time. And so she selects one.

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She's like, I like this close-up.

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How do I get this close-up image? And then it starts guiding her in real time

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as she moves the camera around.

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It's telling her, hey, you should lower the camera maybe about 20 inches.

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So you can see her. She's about to walk forward.

Ejaaz:
There we go. She's walking forward and now she's starting to crouch, right?

Ejaaz:
And then it's telling her, line it up with his eyes. And there's a bunch of

Ejaaz:
other instructions that are happening in real time.

Ejaaz:
All I'm going to say is if I had access to something like this,

Ejaaz:
I would be probably on the level that you are, Josh, when it comes to video

Ejaaz:
and camera production. I just thought this was super cool.

Josh:
No, this is amazing. And it kind of it inverts or it solves a serious problem

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I have, which is helping my friends take good photos.

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Again, they asked me to edit the photos. They asked me to take the photos.

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But now this is a cool thing. So the quick and dirty process is basically you

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point a camera at a subject.

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It gives you a series of different suggestions. You pick the one that you like the most,

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and then it just tells you where to move your camera to do it and how

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to change the settings and the focal length and the right proportions of

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where to place the head and it just makes sense it

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feels really nice and because it's built directly into the

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phone experience i mean granted this is a demo we don't know what the production

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software is going to look like but it seems really seamless imagine your iphone

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photo app which i assume most people on this are probably apple users because

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that's just how it is in the united states um it's just built right in and it

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has these little suggestions as you go along the top again another really cool

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use case for ai i think google in particular is really good at images and video.

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They have the entire data repository of YouTube. They have Google Photos,

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which everyone backs up their photos to.

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They've trained on a tremendous amount of visual data.

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And we're seeing the culmination of that on this very small locomotive that's

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running on the phone. And now all this revolves around the camera.

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The camera is clearly a very important part of the phone, Ejaz.

Josh:
Explain why. Like what makes the camera so critical to this new AI effort?

Ejaaz:
Maybe a hot take, but I would say 90% of the reason why people buy a new phone

Ejaaz:
is because it has a sick new camera.

Ejaaz:
And this new Google phone actually does. AI aside, I think it has like,

Ejaaz:
they quoted something like a 50 megapixel camera, Josh, which when I think back

Ejaaz:
to the first phone I had, that was like some measly 2.5 megapixel.

Ejaaz:
I thought that was super cool, but apparently I was filming on a potato.

Ejaaz:
This is just like astounding, right? But the point is, most of the people spend

Ejaaz:
their time on their phones using the camera.

Ejaaz:
And so Google was really thoughtful about how they integrate AI through the

Ejaaz:
camera. And it's not just with photos.

Ejaaz:
It's not just with how to take photos or how to edit photos, but it's what you can see

Ejaaz:
And so they announced this new feature, which is basically like a real-time AI assistant.

Ejaaz:
It's their AI model, Gemini, except you can show Gemini the world around you

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now, and it can identify different things.

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So say, for example, you wanted to show Gemini a problem that you're having

Ejaaz:
with your car, and you don't know what you need to do.

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You can flip on and put it in your camera app.

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You can start the recording session and just show the app or Gemini,

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the AI model, what you're seeing, and it'll start diagnosing what's wrong with your car.

Ejaaz:
You could show a picture or video of your friend and say, what would this person

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look like with kind of orange hand? It'll kind of like live edit in real time.

Ejaaz:
Or, and I really enjoyed this feature, Josh, they have like a live translation

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feature, which maybe isn't necessary to do with your camera,

Ejaaz:
but it's in the realm of real time AI feedback, which is what we just described here, right?

Ejaaz:
And so they had this really cool demo of Jimmy Fallon talking to a native Spanish

Ejaaz:
speaker, I believe, backstage.

Ejaaz:
And Jimmy doesn't know how to speak Spanish at all. So he would speak English

Ejaaz:
and it would get live translated into Spanish on the other end.

Ejaaz:
What was fascinating about this was it was in his own voice. So it sounded like him.

Ejaaz:
And this worked the other way around as well. She would speak in native Spanish

Ejaaz:
and it would sound like English to Jimmy Fallon's phone in her voice.

Ejaaz:
I just think this real time AI, both from the camera sense and the translation

Ejaaz:
sense was super cool. And I would use that every day.

Josh:
Oh, yeah, me too. These were the two features I was also very excited about.

Josh:
I want to unpack a little bit. First, I have to start by the megapixel count.

Josh:
So there's this 50 megapixels. I got to defend.

Josh:
Listen, I'm upset with Apple, but we're still family. I got to stick up for my boys.

Josh:
They have 48 megapixels in this camera. It doesn't have 100 times zoom.

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Like the pixel does but there are 48 megapixels so if we're

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keeping track of megapixels very close by but i think

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the real-time ai feature is is really important to

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to mention particularly the first feature you talked about which was

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the selection of objects in a camera

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frame so if anyone ever has tried the advanced voice

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mode in chat gpt that we've mentioned a few times you're able to pull up the

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camera and the camera can kind of see what you're seeing in real time and you

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could ask questions about what the camera is seeing what it can't do is select

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specific parts of an image so let's say that you are building a desk and there's

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a bunch of screws on the floor and they're all different sizes.

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Chat gpt can kind of tell you hey you need to pick this

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screw but it can't show you which screw you need to

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pick uh this new version of google's gemini

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running on google pixel can actually do that it can

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highlight a very specific part of a visual that you're showing and it could

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actually kind of write so not only can it read but it could also now write to

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an image where it can actually add displays on top of what you're seeing and

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i think this is a really cool progression towards this mixed reality where you

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have like now these ai systems can read but also write on your mixed reality.

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You have this on glasses. You very clearly see where this is going.

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Like no one's ever been able to do this before. So that was a net new.

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That was a win. The second thing was on the translation. Like you mentioned, so cool.

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I don't know how they do this. I'm a bit skeptical because how did they get

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Jimmy's voice transcribed in real time in Spanish?

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Basically the demo, Jimmy Fallon is talking to the Spanish speaker and he says

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something, you wait maybe a quarter of a second.

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It translates in a very similar voice. And I'm curious, this is where I'm getting

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a little skeptical on the actual delivery of this because how do they get it so accurate?

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Don't normally traditionally speaking when you are training

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or when you have an ai emulate your voice it needs to

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be trained on your voice so you need to feed it a little bit of

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voice data before it actually just works like that so i'm curious what

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the actual execution of this will be like but it was incredible it

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was really really impressive and they demoed this at

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google io a little bit earlier in the year but to see it in actual

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production is cool it's like okay you're speaking

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to a foreigner and it almost translates in

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real time it's really impressive so you say something and it

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comes out in your voice vice versa so if you're speaking to a female

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it sounds just like just like a loved one if you were talking to them and

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they only speak spanish my grandma only speaks spanish i could talk to her it

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would translate live in real time that's really cool it's just like a really

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nice human connection feature of ai it's just very wholesome it's like hey now

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you can talk to a lot of really interesting people in real time and this gets

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translated into their translate app as well so now the google translate apple

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you could also just talk to people in real time in your voice.

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So these are really cool features of real time AI.

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And you could kind of see, I mean, again, they're building this stack for a

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world in which we are going to be wearing some sort of visual layer on top of our phone.

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So we don't have the phone, we have visual layer, it can transcribe stuff in

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real time, we could see augmented overlays in real time.

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It's like all very clearly progressing towards this, the center point,

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which is the glasses, the spatial reality world.

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And these are all really good steps in the right direction. This is cool stuff.

Ejaaz:
All I can think about is Google has completely leapfrogged Apple here.

Ejaaz:
You know, you mentioned, you just don't know how Google Translate has gotten that good.

Ejaaz:
I remember watching a video two months ago. We actually, I think,

Ejaaz:
spoke about it on this show where it was a live Google Meets and they were demonstrating

Ejaaz:
V1 of this translation feature.

Ejaaz:
And back then it was working in practical cases. So I presume it's only gotten

Ejaaz:
better since then, which I just think is awesome.

Ejaaz:
And I can't help but think that Google was always behind Apple in the consumer kind of race.

Ejaaz:
Yeah, you know, they launched a bunch of phones. And to be honest,

Ejaaz:
their cameras have been better than Apple for a while.

Ejaaz:
Sorry to hate on Apple, Josh, but it's just been true.

Ejaaz:
Those are fighting words, but I think it was true. But no one really cared because

Ejaaz:
the software stack of Apple was just so good.

Ejaaz:
It was so addictive. The consumer layer was something that you just didn't want to kind of leave.

Ejaaz:
But now Google has somehow caught up with them whilst building a completely

Ejaaz:
new sector to integrate into all their devices, which is AI.

Ejaaz:
And so I've kind of run out of excuses for Apple.

Ejaaz:
Not that I had many to start off with, but I just don't know where to kind of

Ejaaz:
go from here because Apple has lost a bunch of their AI talent to meta, open AI, and Anthropic.

Ejaaz:
And there's no need to get into that. But I don't know. I guess I'm just disappointed.

Josh:
If Google has killed Apple, are you switching? Are you going to Team Pixel?

Ejaaz:
Oh, God, such a good gut test. No.

Ejaaz:
And the only reason why I say that, and maybe this is pathetic,

Ejaaz:
but all my friends use Apple. and so I feel like I still want to see the blue

Ejaaz:
bubble appear on my phone.

Ejaaz:
I'm hating on the green bubble that I know is of an Android user, right? But if the

Ejaaz:
AI integration is seamless enough for me to kind of like, you know, like 10x my lifestyle.

Ejaaz:
Like if I don't need to text as much, if I don't need to look at my phone as

Ejaaz:
much, if I don't need to search for the right kinds of details as much,

Ejaaz:
if Google can kind of like compound that over the next couple of phones,

Ejaaz:
might I say, and that might be still a year and a half to maybe two year period,

Ejaaz:
there's potential for not just me, but a bunch of my friends as well to convert.

Ejaaz:
What about you? are you still diehard apple or how are you feeling here

Josh:
I have a very simple answer to this one it is hell

Josh:
no i am staying with apple till the day that i die i am obsessed with

Josh:
apple i will not leave the ecosystem till death do us part i am

Josh:
a believer to the end um i just they make such

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unbelievable products their ecosystem is so

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rich it is so cohesive everything works together

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it's all very elegantly designed it is beautiful system

Josh:
inside and out i love it they totally screwed up the software

Josh:
it is an abomination that's okay for me at least like the same way that for

Josh:
a very long time i use my apple iphone with google applications i use gmail

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i use google calendar i use chrome um i believe that that will just continue

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where now i'll just use open ai and that'll be my agent that sits on top of my smart device well.

Ejaaz:
Here's a hot take maybe it's not the phones we should be talking about josh

Ejaaz:
maybe it's a new ai hardware device

Josh:
Right and we don't need everything uh-huh okay.

Ejaaz:
We don't need to get into what this might be, but I'm talking different form factor.

Ejaaz:
Maybe it's something that listens

Ejaaz:
more, that has a million cameras around it, but that is more subtle,

Ejaaz:
that doesn't permeate your eyes and visuals as much, that you don't have to

Ejaaz:
pick up and out of your phone like an archaic caveman of the technological past.

Ejaaz:
And it's something that's just there.

Ejaaz:
In that world, where there's a new AI official software or open software,

Ejaaz:
a new stack to kind of interact with this thing, maybe, maybe Google or another

Ejaaz:
company that we've never even heard of yet that we haven't even spoken about

Ejaaz:
on this show takes the lead.

Josh:
Or even OpenAI. I mean, they have their hardware device designed by the guy

Josh:
who designed the iPhone.

Josh:
So if there is ever a contender to compete, it is OpenAI. They're not going for the smartphone.

Josh:
They're going for a secondary device to the smartphone. The battle will be won

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on this next generation of hardware, whatever it may be.

Josh:
I know a lot of companies, Apple included, are going for the visual game,

Josh:
the spatial reality where they'll have glasses and goggles.

Josh:
Meta's working on this. Google's working on this. Apple, basically every major

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hardware manufacturer.

Josh:
I would imagine OpenAI probably is at least considering this in addition to

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making their sole hardware product.

Josh:
But what we're going to start to see is, I mean, I'm a diehard Apple fan in

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this current ecosystem.

Josh:
So in a world where screens and solid displays, like basically rectangles with

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either keyboards or not keyboards, like I'm thinking a MacBook,

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my iPhone, my AirPods, in a world where these devices dominate, I will not leave Apple.

Josh:
I love the ecosystem, it goes very deep. It is beautiful.

Josh:
In a world where these things become less valuable, in a world where more people

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aren't really using smartphones, aren't really using laptops,

Josh:
a lot of the compute get abstracted away to this spatial layer.

Josh:
If there's a better product, we're going to have to reconsider this.

Josh:
I mean, we've kind of reached the end of the smartphone era where iPhones really

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every year, they get marginally better.

Josh:
There's nothing super interesting. The camera gets a little better,

Josh:
processor gets a little better.

Josh:
Now the war is totally fought on the software side i

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mean we've tapped out the physical form factor here we are fighting on software

Josh:
and ai is very clearly the software lead and

Josh:
apple is clearly following behind so they're not they're not in great shape

Josh:
google's cooking but also still i have no interest in getting their phone so

Josh:
apple really has like a death grip that they really have to royally screw up

Josh:
to to lose and i guess we're just gonna have to see how this plays out yeah.

Ejaaz:
I'll take the the other side of that coin flip uh i i think apple is the weakest

Ejaaz:
that it's ever been and i think if there's ever going to be a kill shot it'll

Ejaaz:
be sometime in the next couple of years um i agree with you on the form factor point though um

Ejaaz:
Just this week, all Meta could talk about was these new glasses that they're going to be launching.

Ejaaz:
Supposedly, it's going to be super cheap and be way cooler and better than their

Ejaaz:
Meta AR glasses that they released

Ejaaz:
a couple of months ago. They're talking about a new wristband thing.

Ejaaz:
I'm hearing about a bunch of different companies that are going to be trying

Ejaaz:
different kinds of form factors. I definitely think that's going to be the case.

Ejaaz:
Bringing it back to google and all

Ejaaz:
their new ai features josh you and

Ejaaz:
i spend way too much time in the gym um i

Ejaaz:
don't know for better or for worse but i know

Ejaaz:
for most of the time um sometimes we get

Ejaaz:
bored of our workout or we are obsessed with tracking different metrics around

Ejaaz:
our health right it's love the inside and outside of the gym right i know you

Ejaaz:
and i track things like kind of like heart rate monitoring sleep scores and

Ejaaz:
health you know um how much hydration we're getting a number of different things look at this

Josh:
I got an aura ring in my watch on the same hand i'm tracking.

Ejaaz:
Everything there you go there you go absolute health junkie over here right

Ejaaz:
um but sometimes it's hard to coalesce and condense all of that down to like

Ejaaz:
some singular helpful advice

Ejaaz:
more so in real time. Well, Google, as you can see on our screen here,

Ejaaz:
Announced a new feature that is essentially like an AI personal coach or health fitness instructor.

Ejaaz:
And it's connected in this live demo to Google's watch, which is,

Ejaaz:
I think they released a new smartwatch as well, which is kind of similar to

Ejaaz:
the Apple iWatch, except, you know, it has a bunch of Android features here.

Ejaaz:
So, you know, you can do the things like measuring your heart rate,

Ejaaz:
your pulse rate, It can like track your calories, see how far you've run,

Ejaaz:
GPS location, all that kind of stuff.

Ejaaz:
But it kind of integrates it into everything else as well, right?

Ejaaz:
So let's say you have a Whoop that's connected to your Android device or you

Ejaaz:
have the Eight Sleep app on your phone.

Ejaaz:
It now can like read all of these different types of data sets and feed you

Ejaaz:
information around, you know, whether you're fit enough to go for that intense

Ejaaz:
run that you'd plan to do today.

Ejaaz:
Or if you should do a wait session versus some random hit or cardio session

Ejaaz:
that you had planned for that day.

Ejaaz:
They had this really cool score. I forgot what it was called.

Ejaaz:
I think it was called a readiness score, which is kind of like an overall factor

Ejaaz:
or health assessment every day when you wake up to kind of like figure out what

Ejaaz:
might be the best for you.

Ejaaz:
And I personally love this as someone that kind of like wants to live beyond

Ejaaz:
the whatever average age of a human is.

Ejaaz:
I love this. What are your takes, Josh?

Josh:
Yeah, I wonder how this is all gonna work.

Josh:
Also this this doesn't feel totally novel to me i mean

Josh:
apple earlier wwdc announced workout buddy for

Josh:
ios 26 which is coming out next month which is kind

Josh:
of similar to this we have the aura ring which gives

Josh:
the readiness score we have the whoop which gives a lot of similar metrics even

Josh:
the apple watch has third-party apps that give similar metrics so i'm not sure

Josh:
this is anything super new or novel i think the thing you mentioned that caught

Josh:
my attention was when you said it works with other data sources that to me is

Josh:
pretty cool so if if you have an eight sleep or if you have a whoop.

Josh:
I'm guessing the data...

Josh:
Kind of gets aggregated to a single place uh that seems if that's the case that

Josh:
seems very valuable because a lot of that.

Ejaaz:
Is the case

Josh:
Yeah that's that's one app versus many and and

Josh:
i was i wouldn't think this would be true because google

Josh:
owns fitbit if you remember google actually bought fitbit which

Josh:
is a personal tracking app and i believe this is

Josh:
embedded into the fitbit app um but the

Josh:
fact that they're opening up the platform and allowing other data sources to

Josh:
happen well you're kind of getting a phenomenon like we have with

Josh:
the apple health app where the health app just kind of like takes all

Josh:
the metrics you have it in one place it's not really the best it's not

Josh:
gamified i think if they could bring that unified experience

Josh:
to the google smartphone without third-party devices that

Josh:
seems really cool like if i could turn my apple watch

Josh:
into a whoop without getting third-party apps that would

Josh:
be really exciting for me and if they're able to do that on the

Josh:
google pixel and using the google pixel watch that to me seems really cool also

Josh:
the watch is very pretty it's round instead of oval so that's like i don't know

Josh:
different it looks it has like some nice metal bands they see the shine they're

Josh:
acting on it and i guess we'll see how that compares to apple's workout buddy

Josh:
which we're getting pretty soon well.

Ejaaz:
A reminder as well um if you're worried about google

Ejaaz:
and their ai model getting access to all your

Ejaaz:
personal data it's private it's run locally so you know you don't have to worry

Ejaaz:
about any of that and as a result of that it works much quicker in real time

Ejaaz:
so that's how you can get like uh increased performance and privacy whilst you're

Ejaaz:
doing your thing which i i just think is like a all-round great theme to kind of like

Ejaaz:
seed into all of the AI products that they announced today

Josh:
On device AI this is a big day for Google

Josh:
I think that covers all of the highlights in terms of the AI stuff

Josh:
if you're interested in the hardware go check out the highlights I think

Josh:
it goes on sale for pre-order whatever if you're pre-ordering it why why don't

Josh:
you have an iPhone I honestly like tell me why tell me why I need to get rid

Josh:
of my iPhone that I am obsessed with and in love with and cannot go anywhere

Josh:
without because I'd love to hear feedback like I'm I'm open I'm open to changing

Josh:
I just don't believe you can change my mind but i think i think that probably

Josh:
covers it for the sounds like.

Ejaaz:
Josh isn't open to changing we'll see

Josh:
Listen i'm excited about a lot of these new features that was google's made

Josh:
by event today they did it live in new york city jimmy fallon was the person

Josh:
who was kind of like commentating and narrating the whole thing he was the host of it you.

Ejaaz:
Just reminded me josh including jimmy fallon alex cooper and a number of different

Ejaaz:
kind of like hosts that were entertaining was just a great strategy by google

Josh:
Because this is fine i compared it directly to.

Ejaaz:
Open ai's live stream of what is it two weeks ago which was pretty robotic but

Ejaaz:
kind of human but pretty robotic and then i go back to the masters of this the

Ejaaz:
ones that i've been hating on this entire episode,

Ejaaz:
Apple, at their WWDC event earlier this year, which I just thought was extremely

Ejaaz:
structured, forced, and just disingenuous, which really made me hate it.

Ejaaz:
But on this Google event, Jimmy Fallon was making mistakes.

Ejaaz:
And he had like his co-host correcting him being like, actually,

Ejaaz:
no, it's this phone, Jimmy, pick up this phone, you picked up the wrong phone and the wrong color.

Ejaaz:
And Jimmy was just kind of joking his way through it. And it made it way more

Ejaaz:
relatable to me, which I think is the theme that tied into all of the AI products

Ejaaz:
that they announced today. It was relatable.

Ejaaz:
It was things that I would use every day.

Ejaaz:
They weren't promising me the next new iPhone or the next new ChatGPT,

Ejaaz:
but it was something that would add use to my life today.

Josh:
Interesting okay i'm i'm a hater i i

Josh:
didn't love the way that they did this i think it

Josh:
was it's very reflective of the brand so when i when i think of an

Josh:
apple presentation it very much feels like an extension of

Josh:
the brand it's kind of like an art in itself how they present it the

Josh:
visuals are gorgeous the animations the transitions everything is

Josh:
super high touch super high polish and they

Josh:
they kind of convince you to care about

Josh:
the product in a way you otherwise wouldn't and as someone

Josh:
who is planning to buy the products that they're selling regardless i

Josh:
want to fall in love with them and they do a really good job of

Josh:
creating this world this brand extension that allows

Josh:
me to fall deeper in love with these products and really understand the

Josh:
decision making why you often hear with apple from

Josh:
the actual designers themselves versus google where

Josh:
you're kind of getting like vps of this that and the third it felt

Josh:
a little less refined a little less polished there was

Josh:
a lot of jokes it was kind of light-hearted i think it's just a testament to the

Josh:
brand my personal preference is this like really cool refined

Josh:
beautiful delivery of these like specimens of

Josh:
art and google is just kind of like hey we got this really cool

Josh:
stuff and we're just going to show you how it works and here's a comedian

Josh:
and a talk show host to kind of walk us through this fun thing and i do want

Josh:
to give him credit because he does play the dumb guy and it makes it very easy

Josh:
to explain to the dumb guy all the the smart things that the phones can do i'm

Josh:
excited for the iphone event that's happening next month because that to me

Josh:
feels like it's going to be this like really cool fun like you're watching a movie i'm.

Ejaaz:
Bearish all right good i like

Josh:
When we disagree this is perfect oh so here's another here's another thing you

Josh:
could share in the comments are your team google presentation or apple presentation

Josh:
do you want steph curry and uh jimmy fallon and,

Josh:
alex cooper on the show or do you just want like tim cook standing in his like

Josh:
his stance like this and he's like today we're announcing a.

Ejaaz:
New emoji update

Josh:
Okay we can talk about the principles of

Josh:
the features which have been an abomination they actually make

Josh:
me sick to my stomach when they stand there with the straight face and say you

Josh:
can now design and color your own emojis that drives me insane okay so i guess

Josh:
in that sense yeah apple apple kind of sucks you got it so here's the thing

Josh:
you got to match the quality of the product to the delivery and they've definitely

Josh:
I failed on that a couple of times. So yeah, there's work to be done on both sides.

Josh:
But without rambling on too long, I think that's it. That is your show.

Josh:
That is everything that happened today with the Google new announcement.

Josh:
These are the new AI features that are pretty cool.

Josh:
Check them out. Hopefully we get them sometime soon for the iPhone users,

Josh:
for the Android users who have Google Pixels. Congratulations.

Josh:
Your phone is about to get really freaking cool.

Josh:
And yeah, so I think that the theme is just like, hey, local AI,

Josh:
pretty cool. real-time AI with translations and camera operations, pretty cool.

Josh:
Doing it all privately, pretty cool. So there's like a lot of interesting things

Josh:
that happened today. And I think it's reflective of a trend that we're going to be seeing more of.

Josh:
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