Limitless Podcast

Ejaaz:
Welcome to our all-knowing predictions episode. As two hosts of an AI and Frontier

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Technology podcast, it seems fitting to end the year with an episode all about

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where we think the world is going.

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We just did an episode that was kind of recapping the biggest winners and losers

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of 2025. If you haven't seen that, I would highly recommend.

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But this episode is looking forward into the future.

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This is where the puck is headed to. This is where we're going to try to predict

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the most impossibly fast trend that is going up into the right in the world of AI.

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So everyone, without further ado welcome to the limitless 2026 prediction show

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this is where we're going to talk about all the things starting with a topic

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that i think everyone's kind of most excited about hang on

Josh:
What do you got check fit.

Ejaaz:
Oh okay josh and i went

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Above and beyond i've got my fleece fully zipped up and i've got my tinfoil

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hat for all my conspiracy theories that you're about to hear i apologize in

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advance and josh josh has gone with his favorite apple ceo the tim tim cook

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Steve Jobs look. He's got the turtleneck on. He's got the glasses.

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You're looking, might I say, Josh, you're looking mighty predicting-able.

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I feel very sophisticated today. Although I will say these glasses are like

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a minor prescription and they're hurting my eyes. So we're going to try to get

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this episode done quick so I can take them off.

Josh:
Okay. Question one.

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So what we're going to do for those who are watching, we have gold stars we're

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going to hand out. This is the Limitless Gold Star. If you are a receiver of

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the Gold Star, congratulations. We are bullish on you in 2026.

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The first question, the first prediction we're going to reveal EGS is what I

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think everyone is kind of most curious about is the AGI question.

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AGI, here's our alarm bell. Are we ringing the bell or are we not ringing the

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bell by the end of 2026? Will there be AGI or will there not be?

Josh:
Okay. My answer is yes, but it comes with a clause, which is specifically for

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science. I think we're going to make a major breakthrough.

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By major breakthrough, I mean, we discover a cure for a major disease by the

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end of the year. And I'm saying this for two reasons.

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One, science progress in AI has been frigging amazing.

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And two, according to Sam Altman's timeline for OpenAI AGI, he's predicting

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we get a science AGI by the end of 2026. So that's my prediction.

Ejaaz:
Okay. And how would you define AGI in that case?

Josh:
Something that shocks me by the end of the year, Josh, that I'm like,

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oh my God, we could never have thought of a dread this up by the end of last year.

Josh:
I think if you create a drug that literally saves millions of lives, that's AGI. Quote me.

Ejaaz:
Okay. Okay. I think my prediction for this is going to be no. I

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don't think we get to agi and for me the the loose definition of

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agi is is like an intelligence that's more capable than us

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uh pretty vastly more capable than us in anything that we can do and a big part

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of that is the physical embodiment of ai like it it shouldn't be limited to

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just bits it should be also extend out to atoms in the world of robotics and

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i don't think robotic understanding is going to be good enough by the end of

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the year to feel like it is a truly

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it's super artificial general intelligence um so that's why i'm gonna say no

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on agi for next year we're not ringing the bell or ringing the bell in some

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categories who knows we will i guess moving on to the next question here okay

Josh:
Houston we have a gpu um over under josh do we have a 25 gpu cluster,

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in space by the end of 2026? AI data centers in space. Do we have...

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I was the biggest hater in the world about two months ago. I am taking the over.

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I think we're going to have more than 25 GPUs in space by the end of next year. Why?

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Because Starship is going to work and we are going to hopefully go to a launch

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and watch that thing work.

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If Starship works, there is no world in which they don't just ship up...

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Like SpaceX themselves ships up a cluster just to prove a proof of concept.

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We right now, if I'm not mistaken, have a single GPU cluster in space, which is training.

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So that would imply a 25 fold increase. I think it's happening.

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EJS, where do you stand on this?

Josh:
I'm also going to take the over on this, but it's not going to be a super bullish

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take because regardless of us having over 25 GPUs in space, I don't think it's

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going to be better than the clusters that we're going to have on Earth in 2026,

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but it's going to be a good initial proof of concept.

Josh:
You're right. Star Cloud has already this year launched one GPU up there.

Josh:
It seems pretty feasible with

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all the SpaceX launches that we're going to get more than that in 2026.

Ejaaz:
Yeah it feels totally contingent on the Starship launch so we're going to be

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watching Starship and monitoring that and

Josh:
We're going to be buying SpaceX shares when it IPOs just to.

Ejaaz:
Be clear next year for the IPO too oh we should do biggest IPO of

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2020 all right wait we didn't add this but you just I'm going to break this

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up right now okay okay let's go biggest IPO of 2026 what's it going to be because

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wait before you answer we have some rumors of IPOs so we have SpaceX 1.5 trillion

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we have open AI which is roughly 800 million dollars We have possibly Anthropik going live next year.

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So like there's a lot in the pipeline. Who's the biggest winner?

Josh:
Okay, it's not going to be what you expect. I'm going for OpenAI.

Josh:
I think OpenAI is going to have the biggest market cap by the end,

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purely because more people understand the AI play. I'm not saying this makes sense.

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I'm saying more people believe and understand the AI play.

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And so that like retail people will buy it as well as long-term investors versus

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space people are still going to be like, and there's a lot of Elon haters out

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there. I'm not one of them, but like, I feel like that might play against them.

Ejaaz:
Okay. Well, I'm going biggest IPO of SpaceX for sure. We just published an episode

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last week about why $1.5 trillion is undervalued.

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So I expect SpaceX to hopefully eclipse the $2 trillion market cap,

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put over 25 GPUs into space and be the biggest IPO of the year.

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But we have a lot of good IPOs to cover. Next year is going to be ridiculous.

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Anyways, now it's probably time to get to the spread trade of next year.

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If you're looking to trade markets, if you're looking to make money,

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we are going to talk about what company or sector is most likely,

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it's what you're most likely to long next year versus most likely to short.

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So EJs, where are you starting? on the long front?

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What category, what industry, what company are you most excited for that you're

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bullish on that you think will make you the most amount of money?

Josh:
Okay, I'm going to cheat, Josh. I'm going to give you two answers.

Josh:
I'm going to give you a company. That's fine. I'm going to give you a sector.

Ejaaz:
Good thing is this is our show, so we could kind of, you know, go for it.

Josh:
Okay, I think the company to long next year is going to be Amazon.

Josh:
I think Amazon has been incredibly slept on. I think their new trinium chips

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are going to get used way more than people expect.

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And I think their AWS spread out for AI specifically because they're creating

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AI factories is going to be insanely good.

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And the sector that I'm longing next year, this is going to be unsexy,

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but I think it's going to be true, is still...

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Gpus gpus are gonna kill yeah.

Ejaaz:
Okay so that's nvidia are we excited about amd also any other gpu

Josh:
Video amd uh if i could put my asian stock market hound sorry i've run out of

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headspace i've only got the tinfoil hat uh it would be samsung um i think samsung's

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gonna absolutely kill next year they've got new chip fabs they're working with

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elon it's gonna be sick what.

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About you just today uh samsung announced their two um nanometer microchip ahead

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of apple for the first time ever which was huge.

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For me, the company I'm most excited about is Tesla, which should probably come

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to the surprise of absolutely no one.

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I am so unfathomably bullish on Tesla in terms of their ability to,

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one, change the transportation complex of the entire world through autonomy,

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and two, this humanoid robotic line. It's massive.

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Tesla also has this gigantic energy sector with batteries and solar panels,

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and all of those things are required for where we're headed to.

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I think Tesla has a monopoly on pretty much all of these pillars,

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and they are going to crush it in the year of 2026.

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In terms of maybe industry that I'm most excited about, I think the picks and

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shovels is still the move.

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The like NVIDIA, TSM, ASML, Avago, like all of those, the compute,

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the foundry, the lithography, the networking.

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We are going to be building data centers so fast and the people who are capable

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of putting those together are probably going to be the winners.

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But wait, let's go to the losers.

Josh:
Can I, can I, wait, can I, before we go, can I tweak my answer on the industry?

Josh:
I want to update my answer, Josh.

Ejaaz:
Okay, what do you got?

Josh:
I'm going with the energy sector. I just realized none of these data centers

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or GPUs are going to work if we don't have energy.

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And I think we're going to make a lot of investment in energy grids next year.

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So I'm longing the energy sector.

Ejaaz:
Big time. All right. What are you shorting?

Josh:
Okay. I'm going to go with meta. Sorry, obvious, but I don't see them turning

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around a new frontier model.

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I think they made the mistake of spending way too much money for the wrong types

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of people to build the models. So I'm bearish 2025 meta.

Josh:
I'm also bearish 2026 meta. I think it's going to play out similarly to the

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metaverse, unfortunately.

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And this conflicts with me because I was super bullish with them earlier on.

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The sector that I'm likely to short this year is going to be Neo Clouds. I think I'm bullish.

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I can be bullish GPUs, but bearish, too many cloud, Neo cloud providers that are supplying the GPUs.

Josh:
I think it's kind of bubbly. I think it's kind of pyramid-y.

Josh:
I think they're going to collapse slightly.

Ejaaz:
Okay. I think my choice this year, I'm shorting SaaS companies in general across the board.

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I am not a fan of like any seat-based software with a weak moat.

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That's who I am shorting this year. And I'm taking a basket of all of them because

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the switching costs are not very high to go from something like,

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and not to single out Slack because I think it's a great product,

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but to go from something that you pay millions of dollars a month for in something

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that like AI can probably automate with an engine and a couple of prompts.

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So I think SaaS companies as a whole who have been sitting pretty,

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making tons of money per month, selling millions of seats to companies are going

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to have a very tough time when you're able to build applications so easy with

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these new AI tools that we're going to have for the next year.

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So I think that's probably my biggest loser. I'm long, big tech, short SaaS companies.

Ejaaz:
Love it. And let's move on to the next one here.

Josh:
Okay, Cathedral of Compute. What do you think, Josh, will be?

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Who do you think will have the largest data center or cluster by the end of 2026?

Ejaaz:
I'm taking the cluster part of this because I want to say XAI.

Ejaaz:
Those guys are absolutely crushing it. They have 200,000 coherent GPUs already.

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They are planning to push to 500,000, then 1 million. if anybody in the world

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can engineer a solution to do that it is going to be Elon and the hardcore XAI

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team that stays up all night every day making this a reality I'm team XAI

Josh:
Elon haters won't like my answer.

Josh:
I'm also going with XAI purely because the proof is in the pudding.

Josh:
And you heard it from the man himself, Jensen Huang. He has never met someone

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who has built and scaled data centers as quickly as Elon.

Josh:
I want to remind you guys of a very famous 2025 statistic that was pulled out

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this year that it typically takes you about three years to spin up something

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like a two gigawatt cluster and at least start laddering that up.

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Elon was able to do it in 30 days that is just insane for the premise of like

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a year's foundation crazy.

Ejaaz:
Yeah it's it's pretty incredible okay so next one a little a little more bleak

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maybe this one isn't a fun one this one doesn't get a gold star this one gets

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a little maybe like a red crossing sign um the layoff lotto you just which industry

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sees the most layoffs from ai okay

Josh:
So this one kind of my prediction is it's gonna hit close to home i think knowledge

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workers are gonna get screwed next year.

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So here's my reasoning behind this. A lot of focus of the new AI models that

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get released, they're focused on this one benchmark called GDPVal.

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And that specific benchmark is focused on knowledge work.

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And it's gotten really good. GPT 5.2 is chosen in 70% of cases right now by

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human experts versus human experts that can actually perform the same job.

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So I think this scales. I think by next year, knowledge works.

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So things like document writing, product strategy, all that kind of stuff,

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it's going to be done by air.

Ejaaz:
That's a good take. I think my take stems from a post that I saw from Andre Karpathy, actually.

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And he was kind of describing how anything that can get verifiably measured can be automated by AI.

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These are things like call centers, like administrative work,

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like data input and output.

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Anything that you can create a

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verifiable answer and then train backwards against, you can replace by AI.

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So those are the first industries that come to my mind. But basically,

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if you have a job where there is a very clear outcome that you're guiding to,

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and there's a reprogrammable set of steps to get there, chances are an AI is

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going to be able to replace that very, very quickly.

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So I think that the goal, if you're a human being who's listening to this and

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not an AI, the goal is to be kind of like a polymath across a lot of industries.

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The dynamic range of knowledge is going to be very important as we move forward

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because part of the intuition that AI cannot replace is just understanding lots

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of different categories very deeply and kind of connecting them together and

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the connection of those dots dynamically.

Josh:
It's intuition, you set the line. It is intuition, that's it.

Ejaaz:
So yeah if you have an intuition-based job you're

Josh:
Good i want to push you i want to push you.

Ejaaz:
Because i want you to select

Josh:
A specific industry that was a great answer i love it but which industry call centers um.

Ejaaz:
Well yeah the first one is like customer support it would be call centers but

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also customer support is a very subjective industry depending on the level of

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it like if you're working in hospitality you're not getting replaced people

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want human-on-human interaction but if you're just like you know filing support

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tickets things like that things like administrative data input anything like

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verifiable is is what i would be a little bit worried about. Okay.

Josh:
I like it. All right. Moving on. Now, China in 2025 has dominated the open source

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model. It's not even a question.

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They have the best open source model. So the question now is,

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will China retain the number one spot in 2026? You over or under?

Ejaaz:
I am slamming the over on this. China is open source world dominance.

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And the United States has no incentive to make an open source model.

Ejaaz:
Meta tried. They got crushed. There was no benefit from doing it.

Ejaaz:
And now they've pivoted to going closed source.

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So there's no indication that anybody from the United States will release an

Ejaaz:
open source model. We saw OpenAI do it earlier this year.

Ejaaz:
People used it maybe for half a day and then never looked back.

Ejaaz:
China is innovating via open source. They will continue to maintain that dominance

Ejaaz:
through 2026. What do you think?

Josh:
I'm going on to for one. simple reason and it's political.

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I do not think the US government and the US in general wants US founders building

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on Chinese open source models.

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It's no secret that this is already happening in Silicon Valley.

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In fact, Brian Chesky of Airbnb,

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integrates AI features into Airbnb, guess what? He's used a Quen derivative,

Josh:
a Quen model from Alibaba, right?

Josh:
I think this trend is going to get increasingly worse and people are not going

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to want that for fear of China implementing a backdoor in one of their open source codes.

Josh:
So with all of that said, I think there's going to be an additional focus on

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open sourcing, just not all, but certain US models and they're going to take the lead.

Ejaaz:
Okay. Well, next up we got the crash out catastrophe. Ejas, this was actually your suggestion here.

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The AI founder most likely to crash out. For example, publicly insults appear

Ejaaz:
or even go to jail. Who's it going to be?

Josh:
Yes. Yes. I had a specific individual in mind and it's going to surprise you

Josh:
listeners because you always call me an Elon fanboy. It's Elon Musk.

Josh:
I think Elon's going to crash out. I didn't say it was going to be a good or

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bad crash out, but I think he's going to crash the hell out because he's going

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to be super annoyed by something Sam Altman or Trump says.

Josh:
And by definition of a crash out i mean he's going to yell insult or crash out

Josh:
on public news on a public forum probably x um so i've got him i'm doubling down on elon.

Ejaaz:
Okay i'm taking sam altman on this one uh he had a little issue yeah yeah yeah

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if you remember the episode with brad gerstner a few weeks ago it was fairly

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recently where he just kind of had like he was like hey listen dude if you hate

Ejaaz:
this like i could sell your shares and he got very like snippy with him and

Ejaaz:
he's he's got a lot of pressure on his shoulders.

Ejaaz:
They have a lot of debts and a lot of payments that need to be made.

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And things are going to get stressful. And I'm not sure how well he's going

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to be able to deal with stress in the public eye. So I'm going to take Sam Altman on that one.

Josh:
All right. All right. Next up, we have Bubble Buster.

Josh:
This category is the AI bubble most likely to implode.

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And note that I didn't say the entire AI bubble because I don't think that's

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how it's going to work. But I think they're going to be implosions with smaller bubbles.

Josh:
Josh, What's your bet here?

Ejaaz:
I think my bet is going to be

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open source models is what I'm going to pick here. And I think the reason behind

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that is because China is starting to develop an advantage when it comes to chips for the first time.

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And part of the reason they've maintained their open source nature is because

Ejaaz:
they have wanted to kind of, you know, accelerate things.

Ejaaz:
And when things are open source, you could build on top of each other, like building blocks.

Ejaaz:
Now that China has started to get like Blackwell chips, they have very clearly

Ejaaz:
defined, like very good models.

Ejaaz:
It makes sense for them to close the door and to shut things down.

Ejaaz:
And if China shuts down the open source models and the United States don't have

Ejaaz:
any incentive to do so, I think the open source model industry probably gets crushed.

Ejaaz:
There's going to be no leading models that are really excellent to use.

Ejaaz:
It's all going to be closed source, closed gated in the race to AI.

Ejaaz:
So that's my bubble buster.

Josh:
I like that. I like that. I'm going to go with open AI partnerships.

Josh:
I think that bubble is going to burst.

Ejaaz:
Oh, the circular economy?

Josh:
The circular economy, specifically for open air who have signed to the tune

Josh:
of $1.4 trillion in payments.

Josh:
I think there is no way they're going to meet their targets next year or the

Josh:
year after that, unless there's something written in the contract,

Josh:
which in some cases they are.

Josh:
But for example, the $300 billion deal with Oracle, no way they're paying $100

Josh:
billion next year when they're losing $12 billion and generating that.

Josh:
So we're going to see some collapse there. Whether they've IPO'd in that time remains to be seen.

Ejaaz:
We'll see. Okay, well, next we have what topic that's very close to my heart,

Ejaaz:
which is the breakout hardware device.

Ejaaz:
Do we get a breakout AI device that people love, not including a phone?

Ejaaz:
It cannot be an iPhone because, well, Apple can't even ship.

Ejaaz:
But even if it was, do we get a breakout AI device?

Josh:
Um yes and i know this

Josh:
is gonna get under your skin josh but i fully believe it google glass 2.0 project

Josh:
aura as they're gonna make me sick i think it's i think it's gonna i think it's

Josh:
gonna slap because it can't be worse than google glass v1 they've watched meta

Josh:
do the ray-ban display and absolutely

Josh:
flop they're not gonna put out something that people hate that's.

Ejaaz:
Like saying going to one prison is worse than the other like they're just they're

Ejaaz:
both suck like being better Nothing is not a good place to be.

Ejaaz:
I think those devices still do not get to a place where they're actually useful.

Ejaaz:
Who have you got? My breakout hardware device, which may be off by a few months

Ejaaz:
in terms of timing, but it's the OpenAI Johnny Ive device.

Ejaaz:
I am so excited. I think this is going to be the biggest...

Ejaaz:
Event of the year next year in terms of how it's

Ejaaz:
going to change the way that we interface with ai this is the first time a

Ejaaz:
company's rethinking the way that we engage with computers as

Ejaaz:
a whole is the person who designed the most popular handheld

Ejaaz:
device in the world the iphone and now he's doing it again for open

Ejaaz:
ai the biggest company with the most amount of users and i think whatever device

Ejaaz:
whatever product they ship next year is going to actually impact a tremendous

Ejaaz:
amount of people and really alter the way that we use hardware where you will

Ejaaz:
not need to be reliant on a cell phone in your pocket to navigate the worlds

Ejaaz:
of the internet and AI. So I'm excited about that one.

Josh:
Is my tinfoil hat on? I don't think they ship next year, Josh. I don't think they ship.

Ejaaz:
They might not, but I'm going to be bullish and optimistic.

Josh:
All right, moving on. Comeback player of the year.

Josh:
This is someone who has been beaten down on in 2025, but they're going to make

Josh:
a big 180, similar to how Google did this year. Josh, who you got?

Ejaaz:
I got Apple, man. I'm stoked for Apple. I'm so excited for them.

Ejaaz:
I think they're going to absolutely no i

Ejaaz:
shouldn't say that i don't think they're going to crush it next year i think

Ejaaz:
they're going to do much better than they did this year why well

Ejaaz:
because they're outsourcing their intelligence to google

Ejaaz:
and that's what they that's what they've always needed to do they did this with

Ejaaz:
their search results where apple didn't create a search browser they just put

Ejaaz:
google default and safari on the iphone they're doing the same with gemini i

Ejaaz:
think edge compute is a huge thing to be wary of because if you can run ai on

Ejaaz:
your phone the inference charges are free to people who are building there.

Ejaaz:
So there's a strong incentive for developers to build on iPhones.

Ejaaz:
There's a strong incentive for Apple to offload their intelligence to Google

Ejaaz:
and just focus on the experience that they're exceptionally good at.

Ejaaz:
So I think if those things happen,

Ejaaz:
Apple will have a really home run year next year as it relates to AI.

Josh:
Yeah, I think that's a good take. My take, and again, I'm wearing the tinfoil hat for this one.

Josh:
Cursor. Cursor has been beaten down on this year because things like Anthropic

Josh:
Claude Code and a bunch of other competitors are just better vibe coding apps.

Josh:
But Cursor has a crazy customer mode and so many people still use it.

Josh:
They still might use Claude via it, but they love the Cursor UI.

Josh:
So my conspiracy theory, Josh, is Cursor runs on VS Code.

Josh:
That is a fork of Microsoft. Microsoft is currently bleeding AI users.

Josh:
I think Microsoft acquires Cursor and remolds Cursor for their enterprise audience. And it slams.

Ejaaz:
You have some big takes. We haven't mentioned Microsoft a whole lot in these episodes. We have not.

Ejaaz:
Okay, so this one's totally not biased at all. Please ignore the humanoid robot

Ejaaz:
to the left of this prompt.

Ejaaz:
That is the Tesla Optimus. Most valuable robot, Ejaz. Which one is it going to be?

Josh:
I know what answer you're going to give. So I'm intentionally going to give a different one here.

Josh:
And also because I believe they might actually pull it off. Figure.

Josh:
Brett Adcock, I think, is an awesome CEO. I have seen so many demos of this figure robot.

Josh:
And in my opinion, it's the only one that can go toe-to-toe with Tesla Optimus.

Josh:
I think because of the fact that they've been focused 100% on this for years

Josh:
now, they've got a good chance of scaling this next year. I'm excited.

Ejaaz:
Okay. My answer for most valuable robot actually is not Optimus. It is the CyberCab.

Ejaaz:
I think Optimus will not reach the production scale required to actually create a lot of value.

Ejaaz:
And they would likely just have like early prototypes. By the end of next year,

Ejaaz:
we will have cybercabs rolled out, hopefully across the country,

Ejaaz:
that are genuinely self-driving cybercaxes.

Ejaaz:
And that is going to be such a mind-bending reality for a lot of people who've never sat in one before.

Ejaaz:
So in terms of value generation, in terms of shock and awe, in terms of acclimatizing

Ejaaz:
the average person to the world of AI that we're headed towards,

Ejaaz:
I think the cybercab is going to be the most valuable robot. of next year.

Josh:
Love it.

Josh:
Okay, moving on. Most popular AI entertainment app.

Josh:
Now, the idea of this is not the model, not necessarily ChatGPT's app,

Josh:
but what kind of new breakthrough AI feature or product do you think people will be consuming?

Josh:
What's the TikTok of 2026? Josh, who you got?

Ejaaz:
I think the most popular AI entertainment app next year is just going to be YouTube.

Ejaaz:
I think it's a continuation of what works, I think YouTube is actually leaning

Ejaaz:
into AI very heavily in addition to supporting short form content built around

Ejaaz:
AI in a way that I don't see a lot of other companies doing.

Ejaaz:
There's probably more hours spent on YouTube than just about any other internet website on the planet.

Ejaaz:
And them signaling that they're planning to lead hard into AI means that we

Ejaaz:
probably get a natural extension. They're building where the people are.

Ejaaz:
I think YouTube next year will be the most popular AI entertainment app.

Josh:
Josh vo3 youtube videos next year dude it will save us a lot of time it's.

Ejaaz:
All it's all there all the parts are there

Josh:
Maybe some ai avatars of us people already in the comments think that we're how.

Ejaaz:
Are you going to verify that we're not

Josh:
Yeah that's true that's true i might lean into it all right my big bet is it's

Josh:
going to be a big year for the gooners i think adult ai content is going to

Josh:
absolutely slap. I'm not saying it's good.

Josh:
I'm just saying Sam's already indicated that they're going to have an adult

Josh:
version of ChatGPT releasing very soon.

Josh:
He said end of year. I don't think that's going to happen. I think it's going to happen in 2026.

Josh:
And I think that video models are getting just good enough for the AI adult

Josh:
industry to really kill it next year.

Josh:
Um i'm not happy about it i just think that that's exactly what's going to happen

Josh:
grok companions are going to get the next level up it's all going to get.

Ejaaz:
Crazy oh god that's a scary future i'm not looking forward to agreed okay so

Ejaaz:
here we have the largest model um like

Josh:
Victoria,

Josh:
that's funny i hope you guys get that joke that is.

Ejaaz:
Yeah that's a deep cut for anyone who's around in 2021 on the internet anyways

Ejaaz:
um yes the largest model not the one walking down the runway the one that is

Ejaaz:
powering your AI tokens to your computer, which do we have for largest model?

Josh:
Josh, I have a general hot take on this. Are you ready? Okay.

Ejaaz:
And also, how are you going to define the largest model too?

Josh:
Okay, so in my opinion, largest model is like how many parameters the model has.

Josh:
So we started off with models with like 10 billion parameters,

Josh:
and then we scaled all the way to a trillion parameters.

Josh:
If you're asking yourself what the hell a parameter is, think of it as like

Josh:
the genetic makeup of a model.

Josh:
You're giving it the characteristics, what its eye color is,

Josh:
how intelligent it is, what its tone is, stuff like that, you know,

Josh:
stats, characteristics.

Josh:
I think parameters will not matter next year.

Josh:
I think the thing that matters next year is post-training.

Josh:
2025 has been all about pre-training. Oh my God, the most amount of compute

Josh:
that we give a model, the smarter the model is going to be.

Josh:
It's pre-training, pre-training. I don't think that matters at all.

Josh:
I think we're going to have a breakthrough in 2026 for post-training.

Josh:
I think people are going to spend more time with reinforcement learning and reasoning.

Josh:
And that's what's going to give the level up for the model. So the resulting trend will be,

Josh:
Models will still get slightly larger, but it won't matter. The resulting intelligence

Josh:
that comes from a slight model increase will be exponential because of post-training stuff.

Ejaaz:
Okay, that's a pretty good take. I think in terms of, I'm just going to throw

Ejaaz:
an arbitrary number for parameter count. I feel like 15 trillion is a good number.

Josh:
15?

Ejaaz:
So XAI with Grok5 is planning to release a 7 trillion parameter model,

Ejaaz:
and that is coming in Q1 of next year.

Ejaaz:
It's going to be a massive gargantuan model. so

Ejaaz:
for them to double that in a year seems possible

Ejaaz:
feasible because when you think about how quick i mean

Ejaaz:
i mean even from this year we went from oh three to five point

Ejaaz:
two and it was just like these unbelievable model jumps yeah and i suspect we'll

Ejaaz:
get the same thing whether or not that matters is probably the more interesting

Ejaaz:
question like you were mentioning is like do we even need a higher parameter

Ejaaz:
count than that or is it just more on the like more niche post training stuff

Ejaaz:
uh that remains to be determined we will see uh but anyways next okay

Josh:
Um context window world records sticking

Josh:
along the theme of like size of model what matters

Josh:
a lot is how many tokens or how many words you can

Josh:
prompt the model with the more tokens you can prompt the model with the more

Josh:
context it has the smarter the answer it gives now um 2025 was a record-breaking

Josh:
year they hit i think million tokens in some cases on unofficial 1.5 million

Josh:
tokens josh who do you think what do you think the record's going to be.

Ejaaz:
I think the limit does not exist i think

Ejaaz:
the context window expands to infinity and this is a very bullish take very

Ejaaz:
optimistic take but there are a lot of researchers like safe super intelligence

Ejaaz:
with ilia's company and um thinking machines who are attempting and even google's

Ejaaz:
trying to do this to remove the constraint of the context window altogether.

Ejaaz:
And I don't know what type of magical moon math they're doing,

Ejaaz:
but I suspect that next year will be the year where possibly we can get that.

Ejaaz:
And what does that imply? Well, it can get this

Ejaaz:
gigantic understanding of the

Ejaaz:
world around you and refer to it precisely without a lot of fuzzy loss.

Ejaaz:
So there's going to be a lot of breakthroughs, but my hope is that the context

Ejaaz:
window world record will be infinity by the end of next year. Okay.

Josh:
Wow. That's, I mean, that is a crazy prediction. I love it.

Josh:
I don't have a strong take on a particular number, but what I will say in accordance

Josh:
to my previous answer, which is,

Josh:
I think post-training is going to be really important context window is going

Josh:
to matter a lot here so i'm bullish large large large context windows next year okay.

Ejaaz:
Big context window year next up we have winner take most ejs does one model

Ejaaz:
become the default for greater than 50 percent of the usage

Josh:
Yes. Okay. So I'm measuring this, Josh, on amount of tokens processed.

Josh:
So purely mathematical, how used is the model?

Josh:
And I'm going with whatever the latest version of Anthropics Claude is going to be.

Josh:
Maybe it's Opus 4.5, but they're probably going to release Opus 5 or Opus 6 by the end of next year.

Josh:
Coding is the most used content. If you look at any of the coding measurements

Josh:
it's like 50 of the tokens that are being processed right now i think they gain

Josh:
a market dominance on that i'm going.

Ejaaz:
I'm gonna take open ai and chat gpt as the model with greater than 50 of the

Ejaaz:
usage because they have this dominant monopoly where it's like something like

Ejaaz:
80 of the users and i guess i'm kind of thinking more on the user front where

Ejaaz:
it's slowly decreasing but the

Ejaaz:
question is how quick is that rate of decrease or

Ejaaz:
how quick are other companies able to eat their market share

Ejaaz:
and it's been accelerating we've seen Gemini take over some

Ejaaz:
of it we've seen Anthropic take over some of it but I think ChatGPT

Ejaaz:
and OpenAI can sustain 50% for at least the next year and then it makes sense

Ejaaz:
that they eventually find a resting spot around like 25-30% maybe slightly less

Ejaaz:
depending on how many big winners there are But I'm going to take OpenAI as

Ejaaz:
the model that becomes the default for greater than 50% of the usage,

Ejaaz:
as it relates to users, at least.

Josh:
Okay. Next up, we have the biggest loser. Can Meta keep the lead? Josh, who have you got?

Ejaaz:
Can Meta keep the lead? I...

Ejaaz:
I think they can, but I don't want to bet against them because one thing that

Ejaaz:
I learned as I've invested in these companies or considered investing in a lot

Ejaaz:
of these companies is you want to let the winners ride.

Ejaaz:
And there's only so many companies that can win when it comes to the scale that's

Ejaaz:
required the amount of compute, the amount of money.

Ejaaz:
And I think Meta has a chance. They have a ton of resources.

Ejaaz:
They have a ton of people that support them. I think the biggest loser of next

Ejaaz:
year is going to be the bears.

Ejaaz:
As a broad category, anyone who is bearish on the industry who thinks this bubble

Ejaaz:
is going to pop in the next 12 months they are going to find themselves sadly

Ejaaz:
mistaken and very badly hurt if they attempt to short this huge wave that we have coming up

Josh:
Okay i'm gonna give a

Josh:
specific company and that company is microsoft

Josh:
they have already given revised numbers uh before the quarterly report which

Josh:
shows that they have less customers using their ai models in general and their

Josh:
ai features this isn't a dig at ai in general it's a dig at microsoft's capability

Josh:
to ship good AI products.

Josh:
I think Mustafa Suleiman, the head of AI, kind of does a bad job at what he's

Josh:
doing, which might be a crazy take, but it's just like, I don't hear about his

Josh:
updates. I hear about Demis's.

Josh:
And I think that the best thing that Microsoft has and will ever do in AI for

Josh:
now, at least, is their investment in open AI. Nothing to do with their company in general.

Ejaaz:
Big time. Yeah, Microsoft has sadly been absent from a lot of these conversations

Ejaaz:
we've been having. There's just not much going on over there.

Ejaaz:
Anyways, the AI blue chip, EJAS, Who is the most valuable AI company by the end of 2026?

Josh:
Anthropic.

Ejaaz:
This is Anthropic. Wow, that's a big one.

Josh:
I think Anthropic IPOs, I still think...

Josh:
I think Anthropik IPOs, I think Anthropik IPOs, they're already rumored to do

Josh:
it. They're engaging investment banks to set it up.

Ejaaz:
You realize how big some of these companies are, right? Like Google and NVIDIA

Ejaaz:
is a $4 trillion company.

Josh:
Oh, okay. I guess the way that I'm looking at it is like most ROI that you could

Josh:
get from like a public perspective.

Josh:
That was the way I was thinking about it. Not the largest market cap.

Ejaaz:
Okay, well that counts too. Is that allowed? Is that okay?

Josh:
Yeah, I'm going to go.

Ejaaz:
These are our rules, man.

Josh:
Okay, okay, okay. So I'm still going to go with Anthropic. I think they're going

Josh:
to IPO at a crazy valuation, but that valuation is only going to get higher

Josh:
as more and more people realize that coding AI is the ultimate intelligence

Josh:
that you kind of want to own and Anthropic dominates.

Ejaaz:
Okay. I'm going to say the most valuable AI company in the world by the end of 2026 will be Google.

Ejaaz:
They will, they're already close. They're right there. They will continue their dominance.

Ejaaz:
They will continue to not only build CPUs for their own in-house compute,

Ejaaz:
but we'll start selling them.

Ejaaz:
They have such a head start across so many pillars they have

Ejaaz:
the best models they have unbelievable rate of execution and if

Ejaaz:
they just continue along this pathway they're already trillions of dollars ahead

Ejaaz:
of companies like open ai and there's no reason in my mind that they won't be

Ejaaz:
able to outpace a company like nvidia when it comes to just growing pure market

Ejaaz:
cap like what a incredible business for me ai blue ship of the year is google

Ejaaz:
and that brings us to the crown

Josh:
Who has the best model measured by intelligence?

Josh:
So this is kind of the way we've been ranking the top number one AI models throughout the entirety of 2025.

Josh:
I'm split on this. Josh, I'm curious to hear your answer.

Ejaaz:
Okay, I could give my answer first. I think, and this is probably a hot take,

Ejaaz:
but I'm feeling optimistic.

Ejaaz:
The answer to this question by the end of 2026, and I'm giving them two gold

Ejaaz:
stars, is going to be XAI.

Ejaaz:
I think they will have the best model measured by intelligence by the end of next year.

Ejaaz:
The reasoning is because they have been in pursuit of

Ejaaz:
truth and they have been in pursuit of synthetic data where

Ejaaz:
they are really trying to hone in the quality of

Ejaaz:
intelligence that they use to train these models and that

Ejaaz:
is paired with the fact that they're able to build these clusters larger and

Ejaaz:
just faster than everybody else so it seems like their lead is going to start

Ejaaz:
to make itself clear towards the end of next year because they're honestly they're

Ejaaz:
going to be the ones with enough compute to actually run something that powerful

Ejaaz:
it's not that other companies won't get there they'll just be the only ones that can actually run it

Josh:
Okay okay i see it um i'm gonna

Josh:
go with google gemini and i

Josh:
think i have a very strong case for this uh it's funny

Josh:
you mentioned synthetic data i'd say google are

Josh:
the leaders in world models and i think world models are going to be the

Josh:
most important thing kind of next year and it to help simulate kind of intelligence

Josh:
um they're winning that with genie 3 i think they have nailed multi-modality

Josh:
uh they've got the best video model they've got the best audio model uh if you

Josh:
combine all of those things into the number one LLM, which is Gemini,

Josh:
and it all feeds back, you end up with the smartest model.

Josh:
That's how they were able to catch up so quickly. I think Google takes the ground.

Josh:
And the final one, trendsetter.

Josh:
What's the hottest trend that isn't so hot right now, but will be hot next year in 2026?

Ejaaz:
My answer is going to be the death of the text box.

Ejaaz:
I think the trend that we're going to see next year, and this is an optimistic

Ejaaz:
thing that I really want to see, is LLMs or AI companies in general moving away

Ejaaz:
from the LLM, from the text box, from the way that we actually engage with these AI models.

Ejaaz:
Basically, the entire interface is that of Google's in the early 1990s.

Ejaaz:
It is a single text box. you write something, you expect answers.

Ejaaz:
I think one of the hottest trends is going to be removing that friction from

Ejaaz:
the experience when people engage with AI and creating more of a

Ejaaz:
like fully embodied ambient intelligence system where it predicts more of what

Ejaaz:
you want. It kind of understands the context better.

Ejaaz:
And it's not just limited to text in a box. And I'm expecting that to really

Ejaaz:
evolve pretty rapidly as companies kind of fight to onboard more users.

Ejaaz:
They're going to be inclined to want to give them more value.

Ejaaz:
And in order to give them more value, you got to kind of tell them how to extract it from these models.

Ejaaz:
And that's the trend that I think is going to be hot and that I'm very excited

Ejaaz:
and looking forward to in the new year. EJ, what do you got?

Josh:
I like that take. I am going to double down on something I mentioned previously, which is world models.

Josh:
I think it is going to be the single most important type of model that goes

Josh:
viral next year purely because it creates a bunch of synthetic data.

Josh:
Why is that important? We're running out of data.

Josh:
All these models are trained on the same data. They're not going to get any

Josh:
more intelligent using the same data. We need new data. What is the best way to do that?

Josh:
Well, what if you could create a simulated environment of the earth and stick

Josh:
in your AI model there? It's how agents are going to get smarter.

Josh:
It's how AI models in general are going to get smarter.

Josh:
And Josh, it's how robots are going to get smarter. Tesla's already using it

Josh:
for their full self-driving AI model, right?

Josh:
They're using it to simulate car accidents so that, you know,

Josh:
they can figure out how to keep people safe. So I think world models are going to be crazy.

Josh:
I kind of cheated because Demis was really bullish on this on a podcast episode

Josh:
that I listened to recently. But hey, he's the godfather of AI.

Ejaaz:
So could we maybe do the inverse of this too is what was the hottest trend in

Ejaaz:
2025 that will absolutely not exist in 2026. Do you have any off the top of your head?

Josh:
Okay, you go first. I got to think about this.

Ejaaz:
Okay, because my answer, the reason why I'm asking is because I feel like death

Ejaaz:
to the agentic browser is certainly a trend that we will consider to see.

Ejaaz:
And that's one that I like a great amounts of joy from because the agentic browser

Ejaaz:
just seems like an unnecessary complexity when I could have an AI go off and do the hard thing for me.

Ejaaz:
And we talked about this with the CEO of Perplexity, Arvind,

Ejaaz:
who was on the show earlier this year. And he was talking about

Ejaaz:
how he thought it was important. But the reality is that there's two buckets.

Ejaaz:
There's leisure and there's productivity. And I don't need a browser for productivity.

Ejaaz:
And I think that's going to be the trend that kind of goes away and never returns.

Josh:
Okay, Josh, I'm going to be hyper specific on my answer because it really friggin annoys me.

Josh:
Reservation agents. I don't need you to book me a restaurant reservation.

Josh:
I don't need you to find flights for me.

Josh:
I'll do that myself. but if you

Josh:
can give me an amazing health stack or supplements based on my blood types and

Josh:
everything go ahead if you can automate 50 of my day job go ahead i don't care

Josh:
for the reservation agents that got released by open ai uh google this year

Josh:
kill them i hope they never make it i love it i love it and.

Ejaaz:
I think that probably concludes our our 2026 prediction show

Josh:
No no no there's one more josh what more and this is the most important.

Ejaaz:
One a surprise one

Josh:
You and I have strived to keep episodes on average to 20 to 25 minutes this

Josh:
year. What's your over under on this episode?

Ejaaz:
We are absolutely taking the under. Every episode will be under 25 minutes no matter what.

Ejaaz:
That is a hard cutoff and we will absolutely not sway.

Ejaaz:
Any higher than that yeah there's

Josh:
No way that's not going to happen right yeah.

Ejaaz:
Certainly not no this is this is this is very serious this

Ejaaz:
is a a hard deadline we want to deliver

Ejaaz:
the best 60 minutes of content every week and that comes

Ejaaz:
in the form of three episodes and they will not be any longer including this

Ejaaz:
episode which is probably already at minute number 40 or something

Ejaaz:
like that we've been going on for a long time so maybe we should end

Ejaaz:
it here i think this has been the predictions episode

Ejaaz:
um the task for anybody who's listening this is

Ejaaz:
very important is you need to put your predictions in

Ejaaz:
the comment section that way we can time stamp them and

Ejaaz:
reference them next year if you want to be top dog

Ejaaz:
if you want to be the oracle who sees the

Ejaaz:
future in a way that we don't or no one else does then drop your comments underneath

Ejaaz:
this video or this podcast episode you could even post on x tell us what your

Ejaaz:
predictions are make a nice little thread we'll share it with everybody what

Ejaaz:
do you think is going to be you can even answer these questions what are your

Ejaaz:
predictions for next year i want to hear it let us know what you think

Josh:
Definitely. And I'm going to let my ego enter the video for a second, Josh.

Josh:
We are less than a thousand subscribers off of 30,000.

Josh:
And listen, I hold no allegiance to the number 30,000, but it's a really nice

Josh:
round number that I would love to reach by the end of the year.

Josh:
So if you enjoy our episodes, if you enjoy our content, if you've enjoyed our

Josh:
predictions, if you think we're going to be at least 50% right,

Josh:
I would call you crazy, but I appreciate it.

Josh:
Please like, please subscribe, please turn on notifications give us a rating

Josh:
if you're listening to on spotify or apple music and we will see you josh in the new year.

Ejaaz:
I don't we'll see we're gonna see when all this comes out

Ejaaz:
there was one last point i wanted to make which is for the love of god if you do

Ejaaz:
anything please watch this video because e-jazz is wearing the most

Ejaaz:
ridiculous hat and if you're listening to audio only you are missing out

Ejaaz:
and i'm boiling head over here it's um

Ejaaz:
yeah so it's worth it's worth um watching spotify is my preference youtube

Ejaaz:
is great but yeah we'll see what the calendar plays out if this is the last

Ejaaz:
year um the last of the year well we're gonna in for a pretty mighty 2026 but

Ejaaz:
if it's not yeah we'll be back again at least one more episode before the year

Ejaaz:
is now so as always yeah like you guys were saying thank you so much for watching

Ejaaz:
for being here with us and we'll see you guys in the next one peace guys